clans

Keep up the good work guys. :)

You guys got this month won. There is no way we are coming back from 500k deficit with the activity we have. Congrats.

You must mean them guys. I'm NC this month.

awesome - give me my plat now, if the month is over

giving up only 1/2 way through the month O,o

poor show dynasty :|

I'm sure they can still push back, after all, they only fell about 400k short last month, and last month they started on the 9th. :)

Exactly. We are still here. Don't worry about us Rosey </3

we were down to like a 150k gap at one stage

Dynasty was in front at some stage.

first three days or so.

Dynasty was first until 10:30PM EST on the 3rd.

first three days or so.

Dynasty was first until 10:30PM EST on the 3rd.

first three days or so

what up copy pasta fags

it's still pretty close

225k now :D

Was 270k about 5 hours ago.

we're winning :D

Ya. Gap : 130k.

its close :)

That it is.

dynasty sucks fat cocks.

:D

188k. Quite a race. :)

Well looks like neps is helping them after all :p

By cheering them on?

Lol, or are you making your funny assumptions again, like you did with that poor Insanity clan. =P

I haz a secret scorer? :)

No. You are attacking us a shit ton. I got 500 attacks in a just a couple of hours

Actually that was courtesy of me Alan ;).

ahh. I'm trying to get level 110 pretty quick. I'm a little between ranges. Heh.

Yeah, i didn't know what was going on, i just figured you had alot of unspent stat points, since you had proper armors :P

Ya, straight strength and min con? :P

And i guessed you'd be rushing to 105+ to dump on yourself with saiyans bots, so i figured you wouldn't be an optimal build :p

You guess right. I'm not much into Freaking.

Boo Rivan, you should have just let me take credit. :)

Guess I might as well help.

Don't make neps mad, he will poop on your day.

wow........

Hey, my dumping clan is #1 for today's heists. Hehe.

Strange Brew gained +18,122 from Dynasty, in 2 1/2 hours. ^^

wow........

LQL

I'm not sure Eternal should be getting excited. We've closed the gap to under 150k from a 470k lead in 3-4 days, and that is with you taking 150k+ energy from our bots, that will get corrected. It's like dancing in the endzone after a TD when you are losing 49-7.

I am sure there are some nervous folk in Eternal right now, hence neps getting on to take 20k from Alan. You know we are going to catch and surpass you. It's only a matter of time. This last part of the month is going to be crazy. I expect both clans to get up to 22 ratio.

^ +1

It's like dancing in the endzone after a TD when you are losing 49-7.

But we are winning right now?

If you ignore the trend line, sure. Do so at your peril.

Statistics and trend lines can be skewed to promote any view you want all you have to do is look at a narrower section of data.

I fail to see how a 4 day period is narrow given the fact that, that is less than 1/5th the elapsed time. Besides, its the latest information, and if it is any indication (and it is) Eternal is in trouble.

If we are in trouble then why are we still winning? I'll say we are in trouble if we lose the lead.

Best start thinking how that feels then.

How myopic Draoi.

"In trouble" to us means the "trouble" hasn't happened yet. That's why we say "In trouble".

I love your sanguine views wedgandi, they are always refreshing.

Well, if anything at least I feel amongst equals. I think I can rest my case in lieu of the fact that you find yourself attacking bots with over 1 ratio for energy. You try and obfuscate the fact that Eternal is in trouble through propaganda on the forums, but that only works on the easily deceived.

You think I care about my level? I want to get into the answerer range, I will be able to easily double my energy then. You are sadly mistaken if you think I care about level, wins or losses.

A careful consideration of the facts shows, that unless you have dumper bots the 80+ range is all ready infected with many Eternals. You will be stepping on the toes of Shoegazer, Rivan, Jules, and Hayabassie (and if you care to rape further up -- Spazz). Not to mention the fact that we ourselves have a few bots capable of taking energy in that range. Again, an unsupported presupposition on your part. Next time it would behoove you to actually support your thesis. Carry on. I am eager to hear your next rejoinder.

Well, I hear that alan is handing out free energy. Plus those bots that took it from him might be available to hand out some.

Well, that is one excuse down Eternal can scratch off the list at the end of the month. Can't use the Neps didn't help bit. :o

In any event when in Rome...

lol, you mention excuses do ya?

Why would me not scoring take away from the legitimacy of a win? Seriously, I'm just one guy. Even if I didn't exist, winners would still get plats.

you are famous neps

100k and closing.

Because you can score 1.5mil a month by yourself...

That still doesn't take away from a legit win. Seriously, if you win this month, then you win. It's that simple. Some people think being capable of something is the same as doing it. They're wrong, if you win this month, then you win. Seriously, don't worry about it. :)

80k behind.

thanks for the update, none of us can look at the clan page.

Anytime. Glad I could help.

You will be stepping on the toes of Shoegazer

Don't step on my toes easy! You know how that upsets me.

tehehe. All your energies be mine!

Take care of my 80-100 babies while I be away boys. mwahahaha

@neps have you used your dumpers this month?

lol can Dynasty topple the giant??

I guess we'll see :)

I doubt eternal will hold top spot forever

i dunno. with players like neps and rivan its pretty tough to beat that kind of devotion. even on an off month theyll always pull through. not too sure why dynasty is trash talking considering theyre behind. wait till yall get the lead then let the shit talking commence lol all in all its been a very suspenseful month. both clans are doing a great job.

its gotten really close at some stages, its been fun

@neps have you used your dumpers this month?

This month? I did 200 attacks (dumping) on two Eternal people, I gave almost 3.7k energy. I'll try to do more, but I'm levelling so many bots at the moment. :/

cool, me and spazz were neck to neck but someone took a dump on him, are you gonna score next month?

No, that wasn't me. Those two dumps I was talking about were like two weeks ago.

And I don't know, maybe. Maybe if there's a new energy system.

If we fail to win this month, I'll probably stop and just do a leveling bot. If we can't beat a neps-less Eternal and with everyone contributing as much as they are and with me pulling a crazy month, then it'll never happen anyways. It's not every month I can put up 1.5mil+.

Besides, Eternal has like 50 dumper clans. Who has the time to compete with that? I hope Ender fixes the energy system soon.

How come alan didn't update this thread when the lead was increasing?

Also wegandi....you sure do line up your excuses ahead of time.

this is getting interesting, get me in, get me in! :D

:o

If champ goes hardcore scoring in the last week.. Haha

Regardless of the results of the month, I think we all agree on one thing. I am the fairest of them all.

Agreed.

xoxoxo

Sheldon. Are you spock?

Phoenix Rising pwns you all.

Suck it Alan.

Cool.

Cool cool cool

Sheldon. Are you spock?

Depends. Are you lizard?

No. I am paper!

According to the Poll on Facebook, this month belongs to me & AquaRegia. So you all can stop fighting. :)

who are you ?

It seems that Dynasty has finally overcome the beast in Eternal.

Great job Dynasty!

Dynasty in the lead!

I foresee both clans getting above 6mil this month. Like I said, this last week is going to be crazy.

Wooooot!

No. I am paper!

Or are you dancer?

And prancer?

And we're back down almost 200k. I think this is going to be my last month scoring.

Even without a win it's still nice to go for personal goals, not that you guys can't catch up again anyway.

Btw your peach color name is more appealing to me than before for some reason.

http://i.imgur.com/zI2jN.jpg <--relevant to the rock/paper/scissors debate

Also wegandi, you just choose the wrong side :(

^ wow?

Wrong side?

Your side is the wrong side alan, I am sorry if I was not clear enough for you.

Fuck the wrong side, and the right side as well, for that matter. The Dark Side is where it's at.

When I first came back to bots, before Dynasty was initiated, Eternal rejected me. So color me not a fan of Eternal at all. In any event, having been around for far longer than most others you guys have so many more bots / dumpers to utilize. It really puts off newer players and clans as they have little chance of ever winning being behind so much all ready. Hence, this month is probably my last month scoring. Eternal can enjoy being #1 for the rest of bots history, but there'll be no more competition, or if there is it'll be a pittance in comparison. If that is what Eternal wants, then by all means shoot for it. Something tells me it'll be detrimental to the long term health of the game and your experience of such. Carry-on.

That is quite a negative attitude.

If that is what Eternal wants, then by all means shoot for it. Something tells me it'll be detrimental to the long term health of the game and your experience of such.

What I read from this was "Fine, keep winning, but you'll be sorry."

Are you saying Eternal needs to lose on purpose for this game to survive?

It wasn't like sera basically posted on the forums on who could be recruited to pose a challenge for us....which alan followed almost to the letter.

If the clan competition system is so easy for us to beat because of reasons the majority of people find unacceptable (or at least Ender), then I'm sure it will be changed eventually.

As for now I'd like to gather up some platinum trophies while we have the upper hand.

A realist one. We're going to score more than 5.5mil this month, having used everything we have and giving more than I should and will probably still come up short and that is with Eternal not even using half their dumper clans. Those the facts.

I should add this is also without Neps. Tack on another million to your score. There are not enough players to compete with the accumulated lead you have. You know how long it takes to build one level 80-90 dumper clan fully equipped? It is no joke. It is going to take 50+ hours, at least.

I may re-think scoring again if Ender fixes dumping, but even then...I'm not sure I want to put in the time it takes in a month, nor will I probably have the time in the coming months.

Well, it is your first full month. What did you expect, you could throw together a clan and win right off the bat? Eternal is an established clan, that counts for something.

Lose on purpose? No, unless you want to. Just don't be surprised when you find folks being less competitive and committed when they see that what they have to face is nearly insurmountable. Come on, we're going to score 1/2 more than the highest anyone's ever scored and it looks like we may not win and that is with a neps-less Eternal, without using all of their dumper clans, and with us giving everything we have. I think that should be self-evident that Eternal is going to keep on winning. It's like the 20$ million dollar team in baseball playing the Yankees in a BO7. Your chances of winning is nearly 0%.

Well to be honest, competition for clans has always sucked. This month is definitely the best though.

You know how long it takes to build one level 80-90 dumper clan fully equipped? It is no joke. It is going to take 50+ hours, at least.

Actually, from experience it took 100+ hours, if you count the camping, especially with Saiyan camping all his sapph bots at the same time. (shakes fist)

But then again, rewards come to those who are willing to put in a little extra.

If you are saying you are unequipped to win this month, then perhaps you should have spent one month preparing, then went for the win.

Sera basically made a "your shot at beating Eternal" walkthrough, trying to create competition. Eternal has waited long for actual competition, and the boys have been having a blast so far. It's been a fun race. I can't understand why you're such a sad panda.

I'm not saying lose on purpse, give it all you got. But don't expect to win without the same type of preparation that other clans do.

The game shouldn't handicap newer players to the extent they are. In theory it will be nearly impossible for newer clans to overcome the deficit they face. You build 5 dumper clans, and Eternal builds five more, or however more. They all ready have an established lead that if they don't give up will never be surpassed. Why should I put in the hours to build 3-4 dumper clans when Eternal will build more and keep their lead?

At least with whores everyone has a chance. My point remains -- the game design is very faulty and will in time drive most folks away. If you want trophies more than a competitive game, well, go for it.

Seriously, I haven't seen any points made that aren't variants of:

"We tried our best, but it wasn't good enough, so that means the game is broken."

The game shouldn't handicap newer players to the extent they are

I find this greatly amusing, right now you can build a level 20 and score way easier than any other level unless you spend many, many hours making dumpers.

The game shouldn't handicap newer players to the extent they are.

This game shouldn't handicap high level bots.

Draoi..it is impossible to prepare like Eternal because you guys have been playing since the beginning and thus have accumulated in time more than any newer player can compete with. You guys should NEVER lose since you have this built in lead from the beginning. Dumpers are fucking stupid to be honest. It completely skews the entire game basically giving the win to the folks who have been playing the longest and making it nearly impossible for newer players / clans to have a chance.

As far as Neps. We could have waited a month, built dumper clans, but you would have / did the same and we would still be at a deficit. That's the entire point. As long as you guys don't quit / walk away it is nearly impossible to overcome the lead you have in dumper clans (and thus guaranteed energy). Each dumper clan is base 288k energy. That is a lot.

My point is enjoy the month as it will probably be the last competitive one for a long time. I have no interest in playing a losing game. I'll just make a leveling bot.

I'll just make a leveling bot.

Can't go wrong with that. It's actually much more fun than scoring. This is my favourite bot. :)

I did find 100-140 to be pretty fun, better than my first try, a dex bot with no int lol

Level 300 energy competition GOGOGO

myriad would dominate

Fuck, I have no targets. Best get building a few 300 reptilian battle hammer dumpers.

do et? :)

Happy building Neps ;) And how long do you think it will take you to build all of them ???

About 150 days each probably. :/

Is that accurate given also a decent amount of ratio whores?

Sadly, yes. :(

fuck that

I was going to write something meaningful and motivational, but decided instead to just say.

QQ

Yeah, no one can compete with a clan capable of getting 500k in a day (and thats with using a few of the dumpers of the about 20+ clans they have). I think this month is pretty much over.

I've only done like 91k in 24hrs. nbd

10 players online atm LOLZ!

1. You continue to have bots with less than 100k monthly whereas we will have almost none, except maybe myriad and he can be forgiven.

2. Before two days ago we had two idles. We weren't playing full throttle and looking at ur members you can still push it out, dont stop recruiting new players who prove themselves in HoF etc . There's still 3+,100-200k+ scores out there by themselves.

3. It's your first real month. Wegandi yourself your scoring on 3 bots. Alan on 2 and more. You guys aren't a full sized 20 different member clan whereas we could be and are close to.

4. You keep mentioning dumper clans. At some point we will have so many dumper clans that we don't have the time to dump energy even if we shared all the pw with each other and clicked 24/7 and 5bots at a time. Which at that point if u guys reach it we will be equal no? Two month down the road its more than likely you can achieve that plus get some more players.

5. And you guys have way too much pointing the finger blaming everyone else in your clan forum than most current clans..

Tru dat.

And it may be irrelevant. But I am a very lazy cser/energizer.

Also wegandi you said we rejected you. That's good for you guys you know. I said before we had like only two new people joining in the last two months, I have pretty much stopped recruiting so there's people out there you can recruit.

Lastly if you do win against Eternal then what? This community is so against eternal winning but I have yet to see any interclan alliance against us plus do you guys have this notion of Eternals gonna disband if it losses for a month? That everyone's gonna leave? That this is a one chance crown that if we lose it all disappears? We are first cause every month we pull it through. Unfortunately you guys do not sound like you do. Even if you win it sounds like your out of breath already.

What is your point exactly Wegandi?

Is it that:

A.) What Eternal is doing is unfair.

B.) The game system is broken, and no one can ever beat Eternal.

C.) Eternal is hogging all the best players.

I think you are saying B, but I just wanted to clear it up.

When I first came back to bots, before Dynasty was initiated, Eternal rejected me. So color me not a fan of Eternal at all.

"If you can't join them, beat them. "

But I've also heard of "if you can't beat them, join them."

So what happens if you can neither beat nor join? Hate them I guess. Oh the world is so unfair!

i am willing to sell ALL my dumper clans to crynasty for only 10 stars!!

Alan has stopped updating us on the score. :(

i took the liberty of summarizing this thread as it is a long read.

full summarization

Lol, that was awesome.

ROFL

It was entertaining

LOL

http://eternal.mugglewumps.com/clanenergy.php

Looking at those stats, I'd say Dynasty got in the lead, then stopped getting energy and hoped Eternal would do the same for the rest of the week and let Dynasty win.

PS: Big thanks to Mookie/Thing for the website :D

sites been updated... looks nice

That/Those site/stats does/do look nice. ^^

indeed they do

god I hate you made2shred

hi draoi! \o

Can we make our forum counter not change colors when Shred posts? xD

<3

Or an "ignore posts by X" option.

Well I still wanna see his posts, I just don't wanna reset my forum status every 2 minutes :[

But that option would indeed be nice for some others.

when I say things, the numbers on the side get bigger :D

When I click links, the numbers on my bot get bigger.

When I click links on Google, my dick gets bigger.

same ^

ooooh sexy stats sera <3

Seriously though, I am a little disappointed about how Dynasty turned out so far. Not everyone, there are some pretty okay people in there. Just some.

Not with the scoring. This (the shortest month of the year) has seen some massive scores. Just the attitude, and the necro'd complaints about the system and all. Seriously, don't play a game if you're just going to bitch about he rules when you don't dominate the way you thought you would. I lol'd at the seesaw between all the swagger after a good day, then suddenly reverting to bitching about the energy system just because the Eternal lead just got real.

Thank you to Dynasty though, so far the month has been amazing, though I was supposed to be in NC i just couldn't completely stay away from this month. All the boys in Eternal have been having a blast as well. Good month.

For the most part, it was awesome. There's still today, and three days left in the month. So whatever happens, congratulations to everybody on a job well done.

And as for the bitching, well, sucks to be you I guess. A word of advice: It's awesome going neck and neck with a good sport and winning, or even losing. But in the absence of a good sport for an opponent, gloating after beating a sore loser can be just as enjoyable, and is oftentimes even better.

Love, neps. <3

;)

5M energy \o/

I don't know what it is about February, but it's always seemed like the most active month there is. In Bots2 February was the month for 2 years straight where everyone came of the woodwork and broke the Monthly JI record.

Thought I'd share a couple screenshots I took

http://imgur.com/a/ODfAL