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simplyshredded [52]
2011-09-09 16:57:41
[13 years, 79 days ago]

There are around 64 platinum trophies and 95% of them can be reached only by leveling bots.

If there is truly no "right" way to play this game, there should be a better balance among trophies.
I'm going to make some columns below so you have a better understanding of what I mean
(I'll leave those that can be achieved by both categories aside):

 Achievable by Level/INT bots   -    Achievable by Fight bots

                                          Top Energy
                                       Top Energy Month
         Top Level
        Scorpion X
          Ultra X
         X-Extreme
          Triple X
         Cyborg LX
          The X
         Terror Inc
         2k Barrier
         1M Trains
         750k Trains
         500k Trains
         250k Trains
         100k Trains
         Top Int
         Top Con
         Top Dex
         Top Str
         Super+++ INT
         Super++ INT
         Super+ INT
         Super+++ CON
         Super++ CON
         Super+ CON
         Super+++ STR
         Super++ STR
         Super+ STR
         Super+++ Dex
         Super++ Dex
         Super+ Dex
                                             1M Wins
                                            750k Wins
                                            500k Wins
                                            250k Wins
                                            100k Wins
         Don't Even Bother
         Level 475
         Level 450
         Level 425
         Level 400
         Level 375
         Level 350
         Level 325
         Level 300
         Level 275
         Level 250
         Level 225
         Level 200

As you can see, I am forced to be a leveling bot once I decide to hunt down the important trophies whereas being a clan/energy inclined bot, I'll never have the chance to compete.


 
Jans [84]
2011-09-09 16:59:57
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Fair point. What do you suggest?


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-09 17:00:45
[13 years, 79 days ago]

I'm not sure that it matters.

The only way to get 1m wins and 600+ int. Is to be a fighting bot and leveler.


 
Smeagol [210]
2011-09-09 17:02:27
[13 years, 79 days ago]

My suggestion is to make one leveling bot, and one fighting bot..


 
ActiveX [136]
Head Moderator
2011-09-09 17:03:04
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Scorpion X
Ultra X
X-Extreme
Triple X
Cyborg LX
The X
Terror Inc
2k Barrier
Top Con
Top Dex
Top Str
Super+++ CON
Super++ CON
Super+ CON
Super+++ STR
Super++ STR
Super+ STR
Super+++ Dex
Super++ Dex
Super+ Dex

I do not think any of these above are specifically for train bots. In fact beating the high level train bots is incredibly hard for an int bot.


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-09 17:06:46
[13 years, 79 days ago]

I think he means that fighters < 180 will never get those high achievements.


 
ActiveX [136]
Head Moderator
2011-09-09 17:09:00
[13 years, 79 days ago]

neither will trainers below 180.


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-09 17:15:17
[13 years, 79 days ago]

I have to disagree with the point of this thread. The majority of those trophies are not "trainer" specific. You might have to make an actual good bot at a much higher level than a shitty ass level 80 answerer to achieve them but like rose stated, the majority of those will be given to higher level bots that are actually well built, not designed to level.


 
Mainor II [144]
2011-09-09 17:41:50
[13 years, 79 days ago]

and keep in mind that ~50% of the 'trainer/int' achievements might never be achieved....


 
neps [183]
<123>
2011-09-09 18:00:26
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Oh come on, you're post is biased. You left out:

George Washington
Top Clan
Top Wins
Top STR
Top CON
Top DEX
Super STR+ and onwards
Super DEX+ and onwards
Super CON+ and onwards
2k Barrier
100.0 Ratio


 
neps [183]
<123>
2011-09-09 18:04:19
[13 years, 79 days ago]

In addition, keep in mind that very active fighting bots "doing what they do" can work towards securing places in 3 HoFs; Wins, Monthly, and Monthly Energy. If you're at least decently active, that's at three trophies a month.

Levelling bots only get one, unless they qualify for other HoFs as well, but you get my point. Training only helps you go higher in one HoF.

P.S. And don't say I'm biased because I'm posting with my training bot. I have a wins bot and an energy scorer as well.


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-09 18:04:33
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Wth neps? He didn't leave but maybe 2 of those out....


 
simplyshredded [52]
2011-09-09 18:07:07
[13 years, 79 days ago]

and those two go here:

I'll leave those that can be achieved by both categories aside



@Jans: I would suggest more platinum trophies, energy based:

 energy amount (x0) or simply energy amount monthly

 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-09 18:14:52
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Well I got news for you. This all boils down to the way you want to play the game. You pick how you play.

Also,

Top Level
1M Trains
750k Trains
500k Trains
250k Trains
100k Trains
Top Int
Super+++ INT
Super++ INT
Super+ INT
Don't Even Bother
Level 475
Level 450
Level 425
Level 400
Level 375
Level 350
Level 325
Level 300
Level 275

Speaking from playing in bots2, these are the most realistic of your options under trainers that are specifically going to be targeted by them. I had a level 200 bot with 10 base int, and I know there were higher ones with a lot less int than most trainers that could beat higher level train bots than the trainers could.


 
SaiyanZ [127]
2011-09-09 18:28:12
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Fighting bots get more repeatable trophies and thus can get more trophy points per month. Last month I got around 500 points in total at month end. The only repeatable achievement the trainers get is the top 10/25/100 level. They'll have a couple more platinums but can't generate as much trophy points as fighting bots. So I think it is somewhat balanced.


 
neps [183]
<123>
2011-09-09 18:29:58
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Lol. This is the second time I've misread a post today. XD


 
Draoi [137]
2011-09-09 18:31:36
[13 years, 79 days ago]

More repeatable plat's, but less different ones.

Wouldn't hurt to have more tho'


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-09 18:55:35
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Ender has stated multiple times he wants to expand on his trophy idea. It might take some thought and actual work to figure it out how he wants to do it, but when he does I am sure it'll get done. We just have to be patient.


 
Mithrandon [121]
2011-09-09 18:56:07
[13 years, 79 days ago]

Hmm Draoi said what I wanted ... most of the 'trainers' trophies are one-timers where as most of the 'fighters' are repeatable

still

Wouldn't hurt to have more tho'

 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-09-09 23:18:33
[13 years, 78 days ago]

The current list of platinums is by no means final. There will be a slew of new ones with the tournament update and even more to come after that.


 
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