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How come when we get the 100 Ratiop plat trophy we can get all the other ratio trophies at the same time, but it's not the same with energy and energy month trophies?

This month I got the top 10 clan and top 100 energy month trophies, but not top 25 clan, 250 energy month, top 100 clan, top 100 energy, or top 1000 energy month?

I'm really confused why I didn't get the top 100 energy because I was 34th in energy. The next cut off isn't until 25.

Yep, it sucks

If the top bots got each of the lesser trophies they would simply get too many trophy points each month.

For instance getting the top level would give you:
180pts (top) + 90pts (top10) + 30pts (top25) + 15pts (top100) = 315pts

Then imagine the bot gets several other top 10 trophies as well. The top bots would never run out of points if they just kept using the tier 1 or tier 2 buffs.

Ya that makes sense then. So to collect all those trophies you have to start sucking..that sucks.

I think I'd prefer to be able to get all of those trophy points in one month, rather than having to deliberately do badly to get the other trophies.

Btw, you were 34th for monthly energy but outside the top 100 for total energy last month. Judging by your monthly and total energy you were probably only 1-2k energy away from the top 100 energy trophy.

Damn it.. I was so close then >< I was only looking at the HoF, but our bot pages shows us our rankings with level, wins, evnergy, etc. maybe this month :/ I hope to hell I can stay in the top 10 energy month for that plat. I would love it.

Now I'm 83 energy, can December be over right now? lol

it's pretty hard to get top 10 without energy dumpers

Whats an energy dumper? Is that like whores to harvest for energy?

Yes, but reversed. Energy is collected by (usually) lower levels, and then dumped on main bots by attacking and losing.

it's pretty hard to get top 10 without energy dumpers

hard, but not impossible :)

So maybe I should give up now? Cuase I'm not at lvl 20 and can't get as much energy as I did in the last few days of last month as quick

Not really, several of the big dumpster users are not scoring and your level isnt that high yet.. Also not too late to make some dumpsters on the go.

hard, but not impossible :)

and i thought i was the only who didn't use a dumper last month

Rose didnt either

Just do the easy thing and make a level 20 bot. You will get levelled though, if you poke your head too far out.

But I already have my trophy collecting going on on this bot. I can only try for the best.

Jans pointed out about dumping bots, attacking higher level bots and losing. That's an awful slow transfer of energy, whenever I lose it's only 10 or less at a time, it would take days to transfer a significant amount of energy.

My personal experience with dumpers:

About 180 energy per minute
9-10k energy per hour, yay

• Collector's statement:

Jans pointed out about dumping bots, attacking higher level bots and losing. That's an awful slow transfer of energy, whenever I lose it's only 10 or less at a time, it would take days to transfer a significant amount of energy.

Does not compute

That's if you sit there with no other tabs open or anything else, and click fight again for an hour straight. Not all that tempting :/

The same could be said for normal energy gathering, and if you click once per minute, well, even with 120 energy per hour regular gathering (compared to 60 energy from dumping), it is always going to take, as he said,

take days to transfer a significant amount of energy.

Also, you think the time it takes to search for a target doesn't add up? Attack, back to fight list, attack, attack, back to fight list, 2-3 seconds scanning for a target. The argument that dumping is more inefficient than regular attacking if you are doing something at the same time is an absolute falsehood. Dumping is precisely what you want to be doing if you want to multitask, regular gathering is much more involved and requires much more attention. Which is why I can afford to dump for several hours/day, it's easy, I can do it while working/doing other stuff. Gathering the regular way for hours on end requires actual attention too often and for too long, something that I can't afford to give if I want to be actually productive at other things.

I used collector to dump energy up to me to try it and the 50 fights I could do took only like 5 minutes and usually only transferred 9 energy, which is only 450 energy. Not that much. That's why I said what I did (through Collector). I was speaking from my experience so you can't really tell me I was spewing falsehood.

Please read my entire post again, and not just a tiny bit of it. Or are you actually arguing that

A. Actively searching for targets while working/browsing at the same time.

is easier than

B. simply clicking a link at the side of your screen every time it pops up?

If you don't realize that I am correct, then I can arrive at only one conclusion:

Dumping: you're doing it wrong. Don't worry, as time goes on maybe you can learn how to make it work better. Learning new things ftw.

how do u get a platnium trophy

buy a star

Buying a star is probably the easiest way :)

Other platinum trophies: http://bots4.net/trophies (scroll down)

100.0 ratio is another practically free plat.

free for some neps ....... free for some.......

0_o

It's my only regret on this bot, that I didn't do it back when it was basically free. That and I.A., the two "free" plats.

Top clan is quite easy

OH NO HE DIDN'T

You're also missing the reset trophy, neps ;)

DO ET

Error 404 - Trophy Not Found

I never got the hoarder trophy. I'm not keen on trying to get it either, so oh well, haha

yeah, the hoarder one always pissed me off

Its just waiting there on the trophies page.... mocking me

i just lost the game ;)

hoarder at 104? not that hard, just get a 120 xp whore. boom ;)

Yeah, I may actually go for it next month, I plan to start leveling a bit more :)

levelling is annoying at times, especially when all your armour breaks at once :/

True. Which is why ratio whores were good.

yeah, you know any 130+?

I wish. I know a few around my level, and thats about it.

damn...

You could stagger when you replace equipment if you can, then it won't break all at once.,Aand start looking once it's down 75% durability, with a shop chance you'll find some things before others. Assuming you're training against train bots you'll always have enough money too.

yeah, i know that now :P

It's inconvenient that uniques have les than half durability to start with, but that's the trade off (besides the already very expensiveness)

yeah, but as soon as you hit level 100 you always have 5mil kudos

Hows that?

if your leveling that is

O, ya, I said that up above. I thought you were talking about some other way.

you could probably get 5mil always at like 80, but i kinda used whores for a bit then :P

Really, to be competative you need a kudos bot, either your own or one you find. It's tough winning fights by pure luck to get enough money for uniques. It seems most bots c ratios lower than 1 are abandoned and have already been stripped of their kudos.

yeah, i just make whores, although i mainly use scarabs :P

I see mauls and gold daggers are common for whore too.

yeah

I use Ancient Swords for my lvl 80 whores, :}

i use frostreavers at times (shitty armors)