im going for a str build
hints
kingrufus24 [35] |
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At different level's they all have strengths Balanced bot's do well from 1-40ish and then upwards of 120 Dex bots before level 60 do ok and after 120 strength bots typically do well, very strong from 60-120 This is only a rough guide however as i haven't tested this, it's only what i've heard, i hope it helps |
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inb4nospoststhatstupidfuckingfaggotry |
xCWGARZAx [44] |
No matter what anyone says str dominates over dex. Yes from 1-40 balance is best but after that go str. Frosts/conq axes/equals/answerers/dazzlers/saphs/megas/plasmas/evaps. Shoot for one of those weapons depending on what your desired final level is. |
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go bal, get raped, level. |
Agatha Christie [43] |
Really depends. Do you want a tourney/energizer/leveler bot? |
kingrufus24 [35] |
thanks everyone, i just wanna be the strongest bot around, but i doubt i will be |
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It's not hard to be the strongest bot around, what's hard is staying strongest as you level. </usless comment mode off (not) |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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Would love to see your strength bot dominate my 140 dex bot, or Kerrod's 119 dex bot. |
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Obviously someone hasn't gone any higher than 120.. |
Nullify [1] |
Would love to see your strength bot dominate my 140 dex bot, or Kerrod's 119 dex bot. Depending on your definition of dominate it wouldn't be hard go >50% against anything either of you can make. By the time you get anywhere, one could have a few bots already at that level. As for Kerrod, it depends entirely on who he is paying to make the bot. |
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i have gone past lvl 140. but i sold it :P ive tried lvling and it was dull in my opinion. a 140 dreaddealer. more balanced than dex and it was a fairly decent bot. which is why i try to stay below 120 range. more targets, energy, and its a lot easier to experiment with builds. so dont make the assumption that i havent gone past a certain lvl :P |
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No different that assuming STR overpowers DEX all the time :P |
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I think someone should have mentioned that there's more multiple types of str bots. There's more than just answerers out there! |
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from 40-120 str pwns, and thats not including the 120+ blasters/souls/dooms/sledges. most players (other than the scarab blade crowd) play within this range. which is why people have said that this game leans more toward str because there is a huge gap where dex bots dont stand a chance which discourages people from making them. and once u do make a lvl 140+ dex bot you only have a few targets to fight. you make a dex bot within 40-120 range and ill make a str bot and lets see who wins :P |
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haha there are toooo many answerers out there. but why make brainbashers? lol |
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Why not just level a bot over 100 instead of making scarab bots tbh. |
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less time and more energy targets :D that basically sums it up. |
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I'd have to disagree, it's pretty much a fact that the technique of making hordes of scarab bots is a very flawed and can easily be ruined by an opposing clan. HoF suggests the higher level bots are way more consistent and effective. |
Nullify [1] |
Garza you suck more than nos or Kerrod. Champion you remind me of somebody that shouldn't say anything. |
Azeryk [76] <Solo Act>
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And the argument here isn't why you stay low level, it's dex versus str. Why the fuck would I want ot make a dex bot at a level I know it can't win? If I'm going ot make something I expect it to hold its own, which is why I went higher level. As far as souls, necros pwn them. Blasters are beastly if you freak them at lvl 130ish. Dooms and Powers? Make them and I will fuck them up with my balanced builds any day of the week. |
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Like Alex Ferguson you mean? Or Rio Ferdinand? |
Azeryk [76] <Solo Act>
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Granted my last bit stated balaced, which isn't the argument, but even at the dooms & powers level I doubt they would "pwn" a dex build. And to make sure we're all on the same page, my definition of "pwn" is winning 75% or more, not >50%. |
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yea your right. or one can do like freakster and start out with a scarab and go up the build ladder. just lvl your dump whores aswell lol. |
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Nos this is clearly a str vs dex thread. |
Nullify [1] |
Ya'll terrible. |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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Y'all* |
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lol and nos i know this isnt bots2, but back in bots two, my lvl 140 doom bot won the blue tourney at that level more times than i can remember. necros or no necros, you suck. :P dont be upset that dex sucks. it isnt your fault |
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and nullify you are someone who shouldnt post. lol youd help yourself out a lot by refraining from making idiotic posts :D |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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I don't remember you winning all the time. You might have won a few times. You know, the months I forgot to enter my bots. |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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I forget, who's clan dominated the blue tourney? Was that yours? Nope, I think it was mine. Yup, had to be mine. |
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lol i remember your tourney clan. and i remember my lvl 102 answerer winning its catagory. my lvl 115 plasma winning its catagory. and my lvl 145 doom winning its catagory. :P |
Nullify [1] |
You know nos it would have been only too easy to point out several spelling mistakes you made. I mean two letter words, wtf. oN point bothering. Also nos something I never quite understood about you was your over inflated ego and infinitely annoying arrogance. There are many, many more players better than you. |
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lol define better?? do you mean with better bots? better personality? better spelling?? haha |
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OH MY GOD, nNos just got completely Nullified there. Ho ho ho... |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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I'm confused as to what you are referring to so, by all means, please point them out.
My ego isn't overinflated. I think it has just the right amount of inflation within in. As far as arrogant, I can't, nay I won't, dispute that. If you think you are better, by all means prove it. I have never said I was the best, hell Saiyan Z has bots that are better than mine. I simply have the patience to build an abundance of different builds. Also to note about notoriety, I have no fucking idea who you are, yet you know me. Point made. |
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FLAMESPAMTROLLSPIRALTHREADDOWNINTOOBLIVION!
Erm, I just checked the HoF, what's your definition of "higher level"? Because it seems to me, that you lived your life, like a candle in the wind, nev'r knowin who to cliiiing to, when the raiiin set in *CAUGH CAUGH* sorry, it seems like there is a fair distribution from 50 to 110 in there. Also, and I hate to bring this up, and I don't know who dumps and who gets energy by fighting, but I'm sure you do, so I believe this would bias several higher level bots to look more consistent, when really that's not a very good way to inform old King Rufus here, who probably won't be doing that and is just looking for a decent bot to fight with. |
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I think I've said it before, but necromancers have to be one of the worst weapons in the game. They give a whopping increase in 3 total damage over megas, while requiring an extra 44 str and 81 dex. Not to mention with freaking, you can probably get plasmas or evaporators with just a bit of gear juggling. You could do the same with a normal soul build and end up with better weapons as well. Btw I don't think there are too many perfect builds out there that would win >75% of fights against another perfect bot, except for cruel whips vs whiplashes or something. |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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Necro's beat souls & megas. |
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requiring an extra 44 str and 81 dex. Not really, mega maul bots aren't really built with 10 base DEX. I'm no expert, but I think the reason necromancers are good is they have just enough STR to freak to a good armor set. Megas are too low STR, even getting anything higher than Guardian Angel is going out of your way STR-wise, and souls have too high STR, considering you can just freak armors nowadays. |
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Necros were never better than megas, because you need more dex. Sure you probably won't go around with 10 dex, but you can get by with 50ish. The minor increase in damage is negligible when you can have 300 more hp with less dex. Basically, necros were designed with the intent to close the gap between megas and souls, and they failed, miserably. In any case, I think both souls and necros are obsolete now with freaking possible. |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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You can run simulations, but I'm telling you right now. Necro's beat both mega's and Souls.... |
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Dexterity because despite you don't hit high but you hit more like i have highlander blade and i kill anyone but with strength you hit high but not much hitting so dexterity |
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Dexterity because despite you don't hit high but you hit more like i have highlander blade and i kill anyone but with strength you hit high but not much hitting so dexterity I love everything about this sentence. |
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Someone's been snorting Pop Rocks again. |
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haha that dude is a fuckin 'tard. |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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He has a point, just the fact that his point can't be made for every level. You might hit more with dex and less with strength but the hardness of the hit on strength kills you before you can hit them enough being dex at the lower levels. |
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depends on what you define as lower levels, Dex is pretty good sub 60. |
kingrufus24 [54] |
hahahaha, i have just been laughing my ass off for the past 5mins,lol. i love arguments.lol |
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Aah, I see what you did now ;) |
kingrufus24 [65] |
nah i actually wanted to know whats better, thankyou for the info and the laughs |
Nosferatu [1] <Solo Act>
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Anytime. |
woodz [62] |
dex rules the end |
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Dex sucks fat chode. |
GhosteyStr [38] |
dex is really good early off..but with higher str bots wearing higher armor and having far more absorb % at high lvls..dex has to hit 3-4 times just to make up for the str bots single hit..in the end lvls..str wins.. |
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Sorry, wrong. In the end levels, balanced wins. |
ghosteyint [7] |
ahh well ill certainly take ur word on it..ur really damn good at this game dude..i just figured otherwise..=D |