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Mithrandir [51]
2012-10-09 13:50:08
[12 years, 78 days ago]

comments?

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
The Snappers                  -5   -5  +15          53
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                              +5  +11  +32  -17    698

STR :  161 =  156 +5         Left-hand  : 146.2-292.3
CON :   26 =   15+11         Right-hand : 146.2-292.3
DEX :   87 =   55+32         HP         : 310
INT :   5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.84%
______________________________

 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 13:57:36
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Not good :p Try this :)

Level 50 adamizers (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Rockfleece                    +5        +5         230
Vampire Gaze                       +6   +6   -6    120
Venom Grip                    +3   +4   +6   -5     55
Blood Bather                       +7               40
adamizer             (80-90)
adamizer             (80-90)
                              +8  +17  +17  -11    445

STR :  130 =  122 +8         Left-hand  : 184.0-207.0
CON :   48 =   31+17         Right-hand : 184.0-207.0
DEX :   90 =   73+17         HP         : 530
INT :   5 =   10-11         Block      : 10.00%
                             Absorb     : 42.2%
______________________________

 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 14:23:08
[12 years, 78 days ago]

A little better....

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load)
______________________________
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Venom Grip                    +3   +4   +6   -5     55
Blood Bather                       +7               40
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                              +8  +24  +18  -18    675

STR :  160 =  152 +8         Left-hand  : 145.6-291.2
CON :   54 =   30+24         Right-hand : 145.6-291.2
DEX :   62 =   44+18         HP         : 590
INT :    5 =   10-18         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 51.96%
______________________________

 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 14:24:22
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Or with Ghoulhide....

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load)
______________________________
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Blood Bather                       +7               40
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                             +10  +23  +17  -17    685

STR :  160 =  150+10         Left-hand  : 145.6-291.2
CON :   54 =   31+23         Right-hand : 145.6-291.2
DEX :   62 =   45+17         HP         : 590
INT :    5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.34%
______________________________

 
June [100]
2012-10-09 14:34:50
[12 years, 78 days ago]

If you want to win fights any where between 50 and 60, go adamizers


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 17:33:11
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Lvl 50 Blackrazors won 72705 times (72.70%) Lvl 50 Adamizers won 27295 times (27.30%)

Point. Made.


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 17:42:43
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Unless we're bringing in freaking? Then that's an entirely different story altogether.


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-09 17:58:05
[12 years, 78 days ago]

I have a freaked Blackrazor build if you want me send you that it pretty cool aswell :)


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-09 17:59:56
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Where did you find the stats out anyhow??


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:11:50
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Adamizers cane any build at lvl 50, you should know this nos :p In general dex/balanced builds are far better up to lvl 100


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:24:42
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Tell that to level 80-100 answerers.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:31:00
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Answerers are just a well known decent build, always has been. A havoc hew build is better


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:36:51
[12 years, 78 days ago]

At what level do you figure they're better?

Lvl 90 Answerers won 63709 times (63.71%)
Lvl 90 Havoc Hew won 36291 times (36.29%)

Lvl 100 Answerers won 60424 times (60.42%)
Lvl 100 Havoc Hew won 39576 times (39.58%)


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:37:41
[12 years, 78 days ago]

Also, make sure you distinguish whether or not you're referring to "freaked" builds or not. Otherwise your arguments are moot and are falling on deaf ears.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:41:37
[12 years, 78 days ago]

I mean a freaked havoc hew would beat the 100's of standard answerer builds at lvl 80-90


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:43:05
[12 years, 78 days ago]

After lvl 100 a str bot becomes better cause of the better armors


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:45:13
[12 years, 78 days ago]

You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-09 20:10:20
[12 years, 78 days ago]

I mean a freaked havoc hew would beat the 100's of standard answerer builds at lvl 80-90

I mean a bugatti would beat the 100's of standard corvettes.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-10 04:08:43
[12 years, 77 days ago]

At lvl 80-90 pretty much everyone has a standard answerer build


 
Fucking Idiot [1]
2012-10-10 09:59:56
[12 years, 77 days ago]
You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.

Lol. Fucking idiot.

I mean a bugatti would beat the 100's of standard corvettes.

Lol. Fucking moron.

At lvl 80-90 pretty much everyone has a standard answerer build

Lol. Fucking idiot.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-10 10:50:08
[12 years, 77 days ago]

You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.

Lol. Fucking idiot.

Lol. Fucking idiot.


 
User Name [245]
2012-10-10 15:46:12
[12 years, 77 days ago]

Don't feed the troll Gpof. He's too cowardly to even post under his "main" bot and thinks that creating a bot and posting "Lol, Fucking idiot" after everything makes him special or something.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-10 18:56:15
[12 years, 77 days ago]

He is special


 
Mith1 [21]
2012-10-11 11:57:29
[12 years, 76 days ago]

stay on topic or gtfo


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-11 17:04:08
[12 years, 76 days ago]

Get adamizers :)


 
Mith1 [32]
2012-10-11 23:17:57
[12 years, 75 days ago]

only if you can send me a build that can beat the blackrazor user name put up


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-12 05:27:11
[12 years, 75 days ago]

It can, don't listen to any eternal member. My adamizer build didn't lose to any blackrazor or silver edged axe builds


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-12 07:36:40
[12 years, 75 days ago]

and my blackrazor build owned absolutley everything at its level even adamizers and your build :)


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:34:58
[12 years, 75 days ago]

I made a workshop freaked frozen blade one time. Honestly the best bot i've ever made. It never lost. :)

Two different things yes, but still.

How about this?

Level 50 frozen blades (x2) (Load)
______________________________
This was generated using Ender's build calculator.
http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Blood Bather                       +7               40
frozen blade        (50-100)
frozen blade        (50-100)
                             +10  +23  +17  -17    685
STR :  160 =  150+10         Left-hand  : 130.0-260.0
CON :   66 =   43+23         Right-hand : 130.0-260.0
DEX :   50 =   33+17         HP         : 710
INT :   5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.34%
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MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:36:49
[12 years, 75 days ago]

frozens won 47207 times (47.21%)
blackrazors won 52793 times (52.79%)

Nevermind :)


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:44:03
[12 years, 75 days ago]

And just for fun...

http://edmazur.com/bots/old_calc.php?l=50&s=96&c=100&d=30&i=10&b=63&h=45&g=23&f=14&h1=162&h2=162#

Freaked to spirit forge/blood seeker, 134 base strength. Then redissed 40 strength to con. Could be more. But 40 is a good number.

Workshop+Freaked frozens won 85342 times (85.34%)
Normal blackrazors won 14658 times (14.66%)


 
Etmere Fearlock [56]
2012-10-12 11:22:36
[12 years, 75 days ago]

or just go for freaked blackrazors

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=50&s=145&c=44&d=37&i=10&b=59&h=45&g=25&f=14&h1=173&h2=173&sh=


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-12 13:51:43
[12 years, 75 days ago]

No! Adamizers :p


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 15:36:10
[12 years, 75 days ago]

No!


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-12 16:55:37
[12 years, 75 days ago]

blackrazors you dont realise coco i beat most people with that build


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 04:38:49
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Adamizers are best at lvl 50 :p


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 04:41:12
[12 years, 74 days ago]

alright then :P the majority of us are saying blackrazors so mith just go with blackrazors


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 04:52:59
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Me and fishwick say adamizers :p


 
neps [371]
2012-10-13 05:03:04
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Blackrazors/frozen blades > adamizers.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 05:08:11
[12 years, 74 days ago]

My adamizers beat draoi's silver edge axes 4-0 :p


 
SG7 [87]
2012-10-13 05:09:01
[12 years, 74 days ago]

+1 for blackrazors


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 05:47:57
[12 years, 74 days ago]

bet you didn't beat his blackrazors tough :P


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 05:50:10
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Silver axes are 57-114, blackrazors are 56-112 :p


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 05:55:23
[12 years, 74 days ago]

and silver edge axes also require more stats so its wasted stats that can be added to con


 
September [51]
2012-10-13 06:03:35
[12 years, 74 days ago]

It's amazing how long you guys can argue about something so meaningless.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 06:06:20
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Well I'd choose adamizers everytime :p


 
Mithrandon [159]
2012-10-13 12:04:39
[12 years, 74 days ago]

give me a silver edgeaxe build here to test against plz?


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 12:19:28
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Silveredge is like Dazzler.....


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 14:23:12
[12 years, 74 days ago]

blackrazors won 72451 times (72.45%)
adamizers won 27549 times (27.55%)

Standard builds for both.


 
Mithrandon [159]
2012-10-13 14:48:44
[12 years, 74 days ago]

as stated at the beginning :P


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 17:13:55
[12 years, 74 days ago]

I know. Figured i'd give more proof. haha.

:D


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 17:18:34
[12 years, 74 days ago]

I already supplied that, earlier in this thread. That's what he was saying....


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 17:20:27
[12 years, 74 days ago]

I didn't say you didn't. That's why I said I know.


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 17:26:20
[12 years, 74 days ago]

I know. Figured i'd give more proof. haha.

:D

You didn't give anything further though, which is my point. You simply gave what I already have given.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-13 21:03:20
[12 years, 74 days ago]

Let's just agree that adamizers suck penis.


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-14 15:42:42
[12 years, 73 days ago]

^ I agree so much :)


 
little smeker [50]
2012-10-14 18:21:21
[12 years, 73 days ago]

what is good after adamizer's ?


 
February [100]
2012-10-14 18:24:48
[12 years, 73 days ago]

It depends, there isn't really a good weapon path if you want STR:DEX at 3:2, you can either go balance and get golden blades or strength, though the next decent weapon is probably all the way at conq's axes


 
little smeker [50]
2012-10-14 18:31:29
[12 years, 73 days ago]

for which lvl conq axe will be good ?


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-14 19:04:39
[12 years, 73 days ago]

60-65 for conqs.


 
White Angel [86]
2012-10-14 19:13:12
[12 years, 73 days ago]

which armor,and other ? can any put here build for conq axes on lvl 60 :) .. tnx


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-14 23:49:24
[12 years, 72 days ago]

I think something like this for unfreaked conqs would do

Level 65 conquerers axes (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Spirit Forge                  +6  +10              460
Manic Cranium                 +7  +11       -15    160
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Swift Rider                   +5   +3   +3   -8     75
conquerers axe      (60-180)
conquerers axe      (60-180)
                             +23  +27   +8  -27    760

STR :  208 =  185+23         Left-hand  : 184.8-554.4
CON :   61 =   34+27         Right-hand : 184.8-554.4
DEX :   75 =   67 +8         HP         : 660
INT :  5 =   10-27         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 55.14%
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User Name [248]
2012-10-15 00:11:57
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Take 4 off str and add it to con, no need to go to 208...


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-15 01:09:26
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Oops


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-15 04:32:10
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Spirit forge is very hard to camp, it's never there. Might be easier to stick with iron pelt


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-15 04:48:48
[12 years, 72 days ago]

iron pelt gives you the minus int to :)


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-15 05:28:32
[12 years, 72 days ago]

There's already -27 from the other gear, so -int isn't really a plus. har har


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 08:21:59
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Spirit forge > Iron pelt.

Camping shouldn't have a play in "best" bot. It's either you are the best because you put the time in, or you go with a second rate armor for 200 strength like iron pelt.


 
User Name [248]
2012-10-15 09:23:39
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Level 65 Conquerers Axes w/ Spirit Forge won 50263 times (50.26%)
Level 65 Conquerers Axes w/ Iron Pelt won 49737 times (49.74%)

Makes such a huge difference......


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 13:12:42
[12 years, 72 days ago]

^ Coming from the guy that's pissed if your bot is 100% perfect.

1% is 1%.

If you get an 89% on a test and you need a 90%, you still fail.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-15 14:58:13
[12 years, 72 days ago]

If you have no stars, spirit forge is a bitch to camp. Whereas iron pelt I often see


 
User Name [249]
2012-10-15 16:09:23
[12 years, 72 days ago]

^ Coming from the guy that's pissed if your bot is 100% perfect.

Confusing.....And I could care less about 1%.


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 17:18:03
[12 years, 72 days ago]

Isn't.


 
Myriad [329]
2012-10-16 07:46:45
[12 years, 71 days ago]

With freaking, Iron pelt is almost always better though due to the +7 dex vs +6 str of the Spirit forge.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-16 15:34:49
[12 years, 71 days ago]

Iron pelt and spirit forge aren't used for freaking, you would use twitch to freak lower builds. Unless you're referring to the amount of dex after switching to regular gear, but even then there's few builds where the extra dex outweights the str and defense of spirit forge.


 
User Name [250]
2012-10-16 15:48:14
[12 years, 71 days ago]

I'm thinking he was referring to freaking to acquire iron pelt or forge.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-16 19:21:09
[12 years, 71 days ago]

That's not relevant with a conq axe build, he was talking about the stat bonus.


 
User Name [250]
2012-10-17 09:12:04
[12 years, 70 days ago]

Fair enough.


 
Mith1 [49]
2012-10-23 16:00:42
[12 years, 64 days ago]

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=50&s=148&c=34&d=44&i=10&b=59&h=45&g=18&f=14&h1=173&h2=173&sh=

i found this one to be better than what user name gave at the beginning

user name won 43817 times (43.82%) Mith won 56183 times (56.18%)


 
Fishwick [130]
Moderator
2012-10-23 16:46:39
[12 years, 64 days ago]

That's cause you freaked the Iron Pelt, giving you 4 con to his 4 str. If you are going to freak the Iron Pelt, freak ghoulhide too.


 
Endzeit [54]
2012-11-23 23:41:00
[12 years, 32 days ago]

Original build would probably be wrecked easily by a balanced build with minimal con just for the fact the balanced would be hitting more often and the original build has minimal base con and would hit less often due to miss/block.


 
User Name [266]
2012-11-26 00:26:00
[12 years, 30 days ago]

Oh if the system only worked the way "it should".....


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-11-26 02:43:00
[12 years, 30 days ago]

Original build would probably be wrecked easily by a balanced build with minimal con just for the fact the balanced would be hitting more often and the original build has minimal base con and would hit less often due to miss/block.

The balanced bot would sacrifice str for dex. It would have lower absorb and most likely less stat points from the armor choices, which are extremely valuable especially at low levels.


 
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