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Mithrandir [51]
2012-10-09 13:50:08 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

comments?

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
The Snappers                  -5   -5  +15          53
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                              +5  +11  +32  -17    698

STR :  161 =  156 +5         Left-hand  : 146.2-292.3
CON :   26 =   15+11         Right-hand : 146.2-292.3
DEX :   87 =   55+32         HP         : 310
INT :   5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.84%
______________________________

 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 13:57:36 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Not good :p Try this :)

Level 50 adamizers (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Rockfleece                    +5        +5         230
Vampire Gaze                       +6   +6   -6    120
Venom Grip                    +3   +4   +6   -5     55
Blood Bather                       +7               40
adamizer             (80-90)
adamizer             (80-90)
                              +8  +17  +17  -11    445

STR :  130 =  122 +8         Left-hand  : 184.0-207.0
CON :   48 =   31+17         Right-hand : 184.0-207.0
DEX :   90 =   73+17         HP         : 530
INT :   5 =   10-11         Block      : 10.00%
                             Absorb     : 42.2%
______________________________

 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 14:23:08 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

A little better....

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load)
______________________________
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Venom Grip                    +3   +4   +6   -5     55
Blood Bather                       +7               40
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                              +8  +24  +18  -18    675

STR :  160 =  152 +8         Left-hand  : 145.6-291.2
CON :   54 =   30+24         Right-hand : 145.6-291.2
DEX :   62 =   44+18         HP         : 590
INT :    5 =   10-18         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 51.96%
______________________________

 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 14:24:22 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Or with Ghoulhide....

Level 50 blackrazors (x2) (Load)
______________________________
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Blood Bather                       +7               40
blackrazor          (56-112)
blackrazor          (56-112)
                             +10  +23  +17  -17    685

STR :  160 =  150+10         Left-hand  : 145.6-291.2
CON :   54 =   31+23         Right-hand : 145.6-291.2
DEX :   62 =   45+17         HP         : 590
INT :    5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.34%
______________________________

 
June [100]
2012-10-09 14:34:50 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

If you want to win fights any where between 50 and 60, go adamizers


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 17:33:11 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Lvl 50 Blackrazors won 72705 times (72.70%) Lvl 50 Adamizers won 27295 times (27.30%)

Point. Made.


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 17:42:43 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Unless we're bringing in freaking? Then that's an entirely different story altogether.


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-09 17:58:05 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

I have a freaked Blackrazor build if you want me send you that it pretty cool aswell :)


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-09 17:59:56 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Where did you find the stats out anyhow??


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:11:50 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Adamizers cane any build at lvl 50, you should know this nos :p In general dex/balanced builds are far better up to lvl 100


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:24:42 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Tell that to level 80-100 answerers.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:31:00 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Answerers are just a well known decent build, always has been. A havoc hew build is better


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:36:51 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

At what level do you figure they're better?

Lvl 90 Answerers won 63709 times (63.71%)
Lvl 90 Havoc Hew won 36291 times (36.29%)

Lvl 100 Answerers won 60424 times (60.42%)
Lvl 100 Havoc Hew won 39576 times (39.58%)


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:37:41 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

Also, make sure you distinguish whether or not you're referring to "freaked" builds or not. Otherwise your arguments are moot and are falling on deaf ears.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:41:37 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

I mean a freaked havoc hew would beat the 100's of standard answerer builds at lvl 80-90


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-09 18:43:05 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

After lvl 100 a str bot becomes better cause of the better armors


 
User Name [244]
2012-10-09 18:45:13 🔗
[12 years, 140 days ago]

You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-09 20:10:20 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]

I mean a freaked havoc hew would beat the 100's of standard answerer builds at lvl 80-90

I mean a bugatti would beat the 100's of standard corvettes.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-10 04:08:43 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]

At lvl 80-90 pretty much everyone has a standard answerer build


 
Fucking Idiot [1]
2012-10-10 09:59:56 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]
You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.

Lol. Fucking idiot.

I mean a bugatti would beat the 100's of standard corvettes.

Lol. Fucking moron.

At lvl 80-90 pretty much everyone has a standard answerer build

Lol. Fucking idiot.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-10 10:50:08 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]

You can't compare apples with oranges. The reason to freak a bot is due to its ability to beat "standard" builds.

Lol. Fucking idiot.

Lol. Fucking idiot.


 
User Name [245]
2012-10-10 15:46:12 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]

Don't feed the troll Gpof. He's too cowardly to even post under his "main" bot and thinks that creating a bot and posting "Lol, Fucking idiot" after everything makes him special or something.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-10 18:56:15 🔗
[12 years, 139 days ago]

He is special


 
Mith1 [21]
2012-10-11 11:57:29 🔗
[12 years, 138 days ago]

stay on topic or gtfo


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-11 17:04:08 🔗
[12 years, 138 days ago]

Get adamizers :)


 
Mith1 [32]
2012-10-11 23:17:57 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

only if you can send me a build that can beat the blackrazor user name put up


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-12 05:27:11 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

It can, don't listen to any eternal member. My adamizer build didn't lose to any blackrazor or silver edged axe builds


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-12 07:36:40 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

and my blackrazor build owned absolutley everything at its level even adamizers and your build :)


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:34:58 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

I made a workshop freaked frozen blade one time. Honestly the best bot i've ever made. It never lost. :)

Two different things yes, but still.

How about this?

Level 50 frozen blades (x2) (Load)
______________________________
This was generated using Ender's build calculator.
http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Iron Pelt                         +10   +7   -5    440
Demonic Circlet               +5   +3   +5   -8    140
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Blood Bather                       +7               40
frozen blade        (50-100)
frozen blade        (50-100)
                             +10  +23  +17  -17    685
STR :  160 =  150+10         Left-hand  : 130.0-260.0
CON :   66 =   43+23         Right-hand : 130.0-260.0
DEX :   50 =   33+17         HP         : 710
INT :   5 =   10-17         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 52.34%
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MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:36:49 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

frozens won 47207 times (47.21%)
blackrazors won 52793 times (52.79%)

Nevermind :)


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 08:44:03 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

And just for fun...

http://edmazur.com/bots/old_calc.php?l=50&s=96&c=100&d=30&i=10&b=63&h=45&g=23&f=14&h1=162&h2=162#

Freaked to spirit forge/blood seeker, 134 base strength. Then redissed 40 strength to con. Could be more. But 40 is a good number.

Workshop+Freaked frozens won 85342 times (85.34%)
Normal blackrazors won 14658 times (14.66%)


 
Etmere Fearlock [56]
2012-10-12 11:22:36 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

or just go for freaked blackrazors

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=50&s=145&c=44&d=37&i=10&b=59&h=45&g=25&f=14&h1=173&h2=173&sh=


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-12 13:51:43 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

No! Adamizers :p


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-12 15:36:10 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

No!


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-12 16:55:37 🔗
[12 years, 137 days ago]

blackrazors you dont realise coco i beat most people with that build


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 04:38:49 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Adamizers are best at lvl 50 :p


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 04:41:12 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

alright then :P the majority of us are saying blackrazors so mith just go with blackrazors


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 04:52:59 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Me and fishwick say adamizers :p


 
neps [371]
2012-10-13 05:03:04 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Blackrazors/frozen blades > adamizers.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 05:08:11 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

My adamizers beat draoi's silver edge axes 4-0 :p


 
SG7 [87]
2012-10-13 05:09:01 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

+1 for blackrazors


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 05:47:57 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

bet you didn't beat his blackrazors tough :P


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 05:50:10 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Silver axes are 57-114, blackrazors are 56-112 :p


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-13 05:55:23 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

and silver edge axes also require more stats so its wasted stats that can be added to con


 
September [51]
2012-10-13 06:03:35 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

It's amazing how long you guys can argue about something so meaningless.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-13 06:06:20 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Well I'd choose adamizers everytime :p


 
Mithrandon [159]
2012-10-13 12:04:39 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

give me a silver edgeaxe build here to test against plz?


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 12:19:28 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

Silveredge is like Dazzler.....


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 14:23:12 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

blackrazors won 72451 times (72.45%)
adamizers won 27549 times (27.55%)

Standard builds for both.


 
Mithrandon [159]
2012-10-13 14:48:44 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

as stated at the beginning :P


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 17:13:55 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

I know. Figured i'd give more proof. haha.

:D


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 17:18:34 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

I already supplied that, earlier in this thread. That's what he was saying....


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-13 17:20:27 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

I didn't say you didn't. That's why I said I know.


 
User Name [247]
2012-10-13 17:26:20 🔗
[12 years, 136 days ago]

I know. Figured i'd give more proof. haha.

:D

You didn't give anything further though, which is my point. You simply gave what I already have given.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-13 21:03:20 🔗
[12 years, 135 days ago]

Let's just agree that adamizers suck penis.


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-14 15:42:42 🔗
[12 years, 135 days ago]

^ I agree so much :)


 
little smeker [50]
2012-10-14 18:21:21 🔗
[12 years, 135 days ago]

what is good after adamizer's ?


 
February [100]
2012-10-14 18:24:48 🔗
[12 years, 135 days ago]

It depends, there isn't really a good weapon path if you want STR:DEX at 3:2, you can either go balance and get golden blades or strength, though the next decent weapon is probably all the way at conq's axes


 
little smeker [50]
2012-10-14 18:31:29 🔗
[12 years, 135 days ago]

for which lvl conq axe will be good ?


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-14 19:04:39 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

60-65 for conqs.


 
White Angel [86]
2012-10-14 19:13:12 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

which armor,and other ? can any put here build for conq axes on lvl 60 :) .. tnx


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-14 23:49:24 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

I think something like this for unfreaked conqs would do

Level 65 conquerers axes (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Spirit Forge                  +6  +10              460
Manic Cranium                 +7  +11       -15    160
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Swift Rider                   +5   +3   +3   -8     75
conquerers axe      (60-180)
conquerers axe      (60-180)
                             +23  +27   +8  -27    760

STR :  208 =  185+23         Left-hand  : 184.8-554.4
CON :   61 =   34+27         Right-hand : 184.8-554.4
DEX :   75 =   67 +8         HP         : 660
INT :  5 =   10-27         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 55.14%
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User Name [248]
2012-10-15 00:11:57 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Take 4 off str and add it to con, no need to go to 208...


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-15 01:09:26 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Oops


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-15 04:32:10 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Spirit forge is very hard to camp, it's never there. Might be easier to stick with iron pelt


 
Leader2 [100]
2012-10-15 04:48:48 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

iron pelt gives you the minus int to :)


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-15 05:28:32 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

There's already -27 from the other gear, so -int isn't really a plus. har har


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 08:21:59 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Spirit forge > Iron pelt.

Camping shouldn't have a play in "best" bot. It's either you are the best because you put the time in, or you go with a second rate armor for 200 strength like iron pelt.


 
User Name [248]
2012-10-15 09:23:39 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Level 65 Conquerers Axes w/ Spirit Forge won 50263 times (50.26%)
Level 65 Conquerers Axes w/ Iron Pelt won 49737 times (49.74%)

Makes such a huge difference......


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 13:12:42 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

^ Coming from the guy that's pissed if your bot is 100% perfect.

1% is 1%.

If you get an 89% on a test and you need a 90%, you still fail.


 
Coco [155]
2012-10-15 14:58:13 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

If you have no stars, spirit forge is a bitch to camp. Whereas iron pelt I often see


 
User Name [249]
2012-10-15 16:09:23 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

^ Coming from the guy that's pissed if your bot is 100% perfect.

Confusing.....And I could care less about 1%.


 
MGK [114]
2012-10-15 17:18:03 🔗
[12 years, 134 days ago]

Isn't.


 
Myriad [329]
2012-10-16 07:46:45 🔗
[12 years, 133 days ago]

With freaking, Iron pelt is almost always better though due to the +7 dex vs +6 str of the Spirit forge.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-16 15:34:49 🔗
[12 years, 133 days ago]

Iron pelt and spirit forge aren't used for freaking, you would use twitch to freak lower builds. Unless you're referring to the amount of dex after switching to regular gear, but even then there's few builds where the extra dex outweights the str and defense of spirit forge.


 
User Name [250]
2012-10-16 15:48:14 🔗
[12 years, 133 days ago]

I'm thinking he was referring to freaking to acquire iron pelt or forge.


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-10-16 19:21:09 🔗
[12 years, 132 days ago]

That's not relevant with a conq axe build, he was talking about the stat bonus.


 
User Name [250]
2012-10-17 09:12:04 🔗
[12 years, 132 days ago]

Fair enough.


 
Mith1 [49]
2012-10-23 16:00:42 🔗
[12 years, 126 days ago]

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=50&s=148&c=34&d=44&i=10&b=59&h=45&g=18&f=14&h1=173&h2=173&sh=

i found this one to be better than what user name gave at the beginning

user name won 43817 times (43.82%) Mith won 56183 times (56.18%)


 
Fishwick [130]
Moderator
2012-10-23 16:46:39 🔗
[12 years, 126 days ago]

That's cause you freaked the Iron Pelt, giving you 4 con to his 4 str. If you are going to freak the Iron Pelt, freak ghoulhide too.


 
Endzeit [54]
2012-11-23 23:41:00 🔗
[12 years, 94 days ago]

Original build would probably be wrecked easily by a balanced build with minimal con just for the fact the balanced would be hitting more often and the original build has minimal base con and would hit less often due to miss/block.


 
User Name [266]
2012-11-26 00:26:00 🔗
[12 years, 92 days ago]

Oh if the system only worked the way "it should".....


 
Gpof2 [130]
2012-11-26 02:43:00 🔗
[12 years, 92 days ago]

Original build would probably be wrecked easily by a balanced build with minimal con just for the fact the balanced would be hitting more often and the original build has minimal base con and would hit less often due to miss/block.

The balanced bot would sacrifice str for dex. It would have lower absorb and most likely less stat points from the armor choices, which are extremely valuable especially at low levels.


 
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