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spongebot64 [66]
2011-04-13 08:15:53
[13 years, 258 days ago]

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=66&s=108&c=48&d=90&i=54&b=40&h=32&g=21&f=21&h1=141&h2=141&sh=
That is my bot build. Take a good look and suggest anything that might help me, I just keep losing every time against other users.


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:17:50
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Well, you have a lot more int than people around your level. A lot of people your level have made their bot for energy gaining. I'd suggest leveling it off and redissing the points. I don't know what build you could aim for. Someone will post one sooner or later.


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:19:39
[13 years, 258 days ago]

theres a few major points here that will contribute to why youre not winning any battles.
1. most bots have their int at 10 or less at your level.
2. most bots will have unique armours that will raise stats, and will allow them to get better weapons
3. with a balanced build, try and keep your constitution close to (HP = lvl x 10)

these might help your build a little


 
Seras [45]
2011-04-13 08:19:47
[13 years, 258 days ago]

lol thats a good one voxy


 
Seras [45]
2011-04-13 08:20:46
[13 years, 258 days ago]

How much redistribution points do you have and how many can you buy?


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:26:11
[13 years, 258 days ago]

unless you have a LOT of re-dis points, id recommend scrapping that bot and starting over.

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=66&s=111&c=62&d=117&i=10&b=36&h=33&g=18&f=17&h1=202&h2=202&sh=

this is a build for your level that might help you win a bit more.


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:27:56
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Don't scrap that bot! Give it to me! ^^


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:29:36
[13 years, 258 days ago]

lol Voxy, i guess it would earn kudos fast, so eventually you can re-dis all of its int. eventually...


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:31:15
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Thats a VERY unrealistic build. Firstly even if he had 35 int the max he can have at this very moment at lvl 66 is 40 rediss thats not enough to have 10 int therefore its not possible to hit the build you suggest.

He needs post his current rediss amount and knowing new players they generally dont have 35, but even if he does I would suggest gaining around lvl 80 to answerers to rediss since he has that much dex, but obviously wants a STR bot. Gaining lvl 80 is also a reasonable assumption that he will have enough rediss by then.


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:31:40
[13 years, 258 days ago]

35 rediss not int*


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:33:12
[13 years, 258 days ago]

rechecked since i just skimmed his build- guess he does want a bal bot, but he still cannot hit 10 int at lvl 66, therefore still suggesting to hit to 80 just not for answerers since he wants a bal ;)


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:34:13
[13 years, 258 days ago]

So, I think the best idea in this thread so far is give it to me. Alright, so just bmail be the pass and we'll be set! ;)


 
Hobo [83]
2011-04-13 08:35:04
[13 years, 258 days ago]

i'll take it =) -yoink-


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:36:19
[13 years, 258 days ago]

It was more if he chose to make another bot, that would be something for him to aim for.
and voxy -.- lol


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:36:22
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I had my hand in this thread first!


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:36:29
[13 years, 258 days ago]

*he/she


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:37:14
[13 years, 258 days ago]

he/she/gay/cross-dresser**


 
Hobo [83]
2011-04-13 08:37:22
[13 years, 258 days ago]

well i had it here last =) eh hehe


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:38:43
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Mkay, anyways choices:

1) give voxy the bot
2) give hobo the bot
3) give me the bot?
4) give darker soul the bot
5) post your rediss points how many you have and how many you can buy, so we can actually help you.
6) just screw winning against other bots and try to catch voxy lvl 138 bot before beta ends with more int (meaining just train dont fight).


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:38:43
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Mkay, anyways choices:

1) give voxy the bot
2) give hobo the bot
3) give me the bot?
4) give darker soul the bot
5) post your rediss points how many you have and how many you can buy, so we can actually help you.
6) just screw winning against other bots and try to catch voxy lvl 138 bot before beta ends with more int (meaining just train dont fight).


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:39:58
[13 years, 258 days ago]

be funny if he just doesnt reply. all our expertise would go to waste! lol :p


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:40:51
[13 years, 258 days ago]

1) give voxy the bot (Go with this option)
2) give hobo the bot (Nah, he didn't get in fast enough)
3) give me the bot? (Waste of time ;) )
4) give darker soul the bot (Not worth it)
5) post your rediss points how many you have and how many you can buy, so we can actually help you. (Maybe)
6) just screw winning against other bots and try to catch voxy lvl 138 bot before beta ends with more int (meaining just train dont fight). (Hahahahaha, you'll never beat me and my team of cheap little Mexican workers!!)


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:42:19
[13 years, 258 days ago]

well, expertise, and voxy's floating around and begging for another int bot for his collection :p


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:42:55
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I'd hardly call 1 int bot a collection...


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:44:48
[13 years, 258 days ago]

your point is invalid, as im eating potato chips. sorry, better luck next time :)


 
Voxymaus [138]
2011-04-13 08:45:54
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I think we've taken this thread way off topic and this guy has already quit bots because of our randomness and not helping him what so ever.. Alan, give him a build


 
Darker Soul2 [75]
2011-04-13 08:46:59
[13 years, 258 days ago]

lol, was about to point that out :p
oh well, i tried haha


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 08:47:56
[13 years, 258 days ago]

ur build is good, just no1 can really help a 54 int bot without knowing the rediss, beside suggesting to restart :P


 
Bum [79]
2011-04-13 08:50:14
[13 years, 258 days ago]

i honestly think he was scared

Hobo


 
spongebot64 [66]
2011-04-13 09:01:24
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I am not going to restart or build a new bot. Anyway I have no redis points, but the way I level up is by training. I often lose battles by users picking to battle against me.

If you are too lazy to go to the link supplied, then here are my points:
STR: 108
DEX: 90
CON: 50
INT: 52


 
Darker Soul2 [76]
2011-04-13 09:03:06
[13 years, 258 days ago]

then your best off to buy some unique armours that will keep your absorb percentage up, and raise your stats well, and just keep training.


 
Seras [46]
2011-04-13 09:03:53
[13 years, 258 days ago]

0 Rediss, also 0 to buy? Basically your bot will not be good against the majority of the bots that have more than 2.0 ratio ( and the ones that dont wear crab whistlers..) until you get to lvl 120 or so..

:P


 
Champion2 [76]
2011-04-13 09:04:22
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Get goblin toe and you should be unstoppable


 
Darker Soul2 [76]
2011-04-13 09:05:28
[13 years, 258 days ago]

na bro, get greyform and you pwn!


 
spongebot64 [66]
2011-04-13 09:07:43
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I got myself God's Pyjamas which lowers my INT level by a whopping 20.
Not forgetting it is stronger.
Oh and, here is the updated link to my bot on the calculator:
http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=66&s=108&c=48&d=90&i=54&b=47&h=32&g=21&f=21&h1=141&h2=141&sh=


 
Darker Soul2 [76]
2011-04-13 09:10:22
[13 years, 258 days ago]

duuude thats probably not gonna help too much. as far as your concerned, int is the only thing thatll keep your bot going at the moment. id recommend getting a Rockfleece at 120str, and a darksight helm will also help you out


 
Seras [47]
2011-04-13 09:11:29
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Thats not the point spongebob.

Lemme explain what we mean with int is bad for you.

STR gives you more damage and allows you to wear better equipment faster which in the end allows you to have more absorb which in the end will allow you to take less damage.

CON gives you hp allowing you to survive longer.

DEX gives you higher attack rating, def rating and block chance and lets you miss less.

INT gives you more XP and kudos. Thats it.

So having 54 int doesnt help your bot at all in a bot vs bot fight.

Equipping an armor that makes your bot have -20 int doesnt make your bot stronger, simply because we said INT is bad and you go buy the armor with the biggest negative int.


 
Seras [47]
2011-04-13 09:11:59
[13 years, 258 days ago]

sorry its spongebot*.


 
Seras [47]
2011-04-13 09:32:51
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Let me do the painfully layout of how to improve your bot.

Its likely your not gonna finish it before beta ends.. maybe you do who knows? But anyways, im gonna assume you cannot buy any redistribution points in your lvl 60-69 gap.

You will get 5 redistributions you can buy every 10 levels. Meaning at lvl 70 you will get 5 redistributions you can buy, for alot of kudos. dont ask me how much cause I dont remember. You will also get 2 for free. This is important.

So since you have 54 int and also 0 rediss points to make your bot any good you need to want to get alot of redistribution points to make your base int go back down to 10, not use armor to negate it cause that doesnt help (like with gods pj).

So because you will need a total of 44 redistribution points and you only get 7 every 10 levels, you will need to level to 130 before you can get a potential of 49 redistribution points.

Since your an INT anyway this will take much much less than time any other bots who have 10 int. You will use that to your advantage, by even getting more int. You will therefore start getting this first:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=66&s=108&c=48&d=90&i=54&b=33&h=31&g=13&f=22&h1=141&h2=141&sh=

This will boost your INT to 68. This is good as the more INT you have the more likely you will level faster. Dont care about how much you loose for now, no pain no gain yes?

Now this is what we want to aim at lvl 130:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=130&s=209&c=79&d=258&i=10&b=81&h=56&g=32&f=35&h1=311&h2=311&sh=

thats 209 str at lvl 130. I know other people like to play differently but I like to pump my str up first. So in the next levels, whenever you get any 4 stat points PUMP it into str till you get 209 base str.

Now you want to aim something around this at lvl 82:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=82&s=172&c=48&d=90&i=54&b=52&h=38&g=22&f=25&h1=187&h2=187&sh

Something around this at lvl 92:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=92&s=209&c=48&d=93&i=54&b=70&h=47&g=30&f=27&h1=222&h2=222&sh=

Something like this at lvl 102:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=66&s=108&c=48&d=90&i=54&b=47&h=32&g=21&f=21&h1=141&h2=141&sh=

Something like this at lvl 112:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=112&s=209&c=48&d=173&i=54&b=70&h=47&g=30&f=27&h1=244&h2=244&sh=

Something like this at lvl 122 (yes theres less int cause you will need to redistribute 5 in order to be able to get more rediss at lvl 130):

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=122&s=209&c=48&d=217&i=50&b=70&h=47&g=30&f=27&h1=244&h2=244&sh=

And this at lvl 130:

http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=130&s=209&c=79&d=258&i=10&b=81&h=56&g=32&f=35&h1=311&h2=311&sh=

AND YOU WILL NEED TO:

Level 70: Buy 5 rediss you will get 2 for free
Level 80: Buy 5 rediss you will get 2 for free
Level 90: Buy 5 rediss you will get 2 for free
Level 100: Buy 5 rediss you will get 2 for free
Level 110: Buy 5 rediss you will get 2 for free
Level 120: Buy 5 rediss and USE 5 rediss and put it into DEX, as the max cap of rediss you can have is 35 at any time.



Too much work? Go make a new bot as we suggest in the first place:

Disclaimer: Yes there might be a more sophisticated way of leveling it to 130/use of armors/weapons but I couldn't be bothered to find it? :)




 
Champion2 [76]
2011-04-13 10:16:09
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Freyform is indeed a mighty chestpiece. A must for any future kings


 
Champion2 [76]
2011-04-13 10:16:28
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Greyform*


 
bluei [69]
2011-04-13 10:26:47
[13 years, 258 days ago]

I'm not sure that suggesting the OP get to level 130 is great advice. Instead, how about just some general tips like:

1. Don't add any more base int
2. Re-distribute as much int out as possible whenever possible
3. Equip unique gear that gives the most bonuses to str/dex/con, regardless of any -int that it may have

All this is assuming that you want your bot to be as strong as possible rather than to level quickly. There's obviously a grey area between the two, but most players prefer to have either no int or a lot like you have.


 
Seras [50]
2011-04-13 10:29:30
[13 years, 258 days ago]

Potentially he should learn that by going through the whole process to 130 :P


 
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