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Esquire2 [70]
2011-08-19 12:30:06 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

A minor dex buff that won't affect all, but some dex bots, and that is to change block cap from 70% to 95%. 70 seems like a random and obscure number, and this would allow for additional shields into the mix. Not to mention, this will improve dex bots while not improving balance bots or strength bots.


 
Alan [120]
2011-08-19 12:59:02 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

95 is to much. How about 80?


 
ClanLord [58]
2011-08-19 13:31:09 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

Too much, 75%


 
Ecoueses [163]
2011-08-19 14:11:31 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

too much. 70%.

what?


 
Esquire2 [72]
2011-08-19 14:42:58 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

Did anyone actually check the numbers, or did everyone just say no?

These are minimum con builds, 10 str, 10 int. Max block:

10 = 5% 20 = 56.5% 30 = 67.3% 40 = 74% 50 = 79.3% 60 = 81.5% 70 = 85.5% 80 = 88.3% 90 = 90.8% 100 = 93.4% 110 = 94.7% 120 = 95.1%

Obviously, these are impractical. However, it does show that dex can (and does) his the 70% cap, which does hinder them greatly. Go actually run the numbers in some builds and see what you think before jumping on the no bandwagon.


 
Nosferatu [88]
2011-08-19 17:12:34 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

Though I would agree that a block chance raise would be greatly beneficial to dex bots, and even balanced bots at a certain level (high level int trainers would greatly benefit) I do think 95% may be a bit high.

Perhaps a more smaller raise would be better so we can guage the impact. So say a raise to 75%, see how that goes. If it still doesn't "even" the playing field, raise it more.

Once you find the magic number though stop and let them fight it out evenly matched.


 
Alan [120]
2011-08-19 17:24:30 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

I've pushed for 80% a long time ago. Before closed beta.

I agree with nos, raise it to 75%. See how that goes. Honestly, 75 isn't enough, but that's just me.

I'll run some sims with 75% and 80% block available.


 
Off [117]
2011-08-19 20:22:29 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

It should be either 75 or 80 (not sure if 75 is enough)


 
Myriad [165]
2011-08-19 20:54:34 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

All for it. Pure dex bots, and to a lesser extent regular dex bots, have always been hindered by the block cap. Raising it to 75% sounds pretty good to me as it will almost exclusively help dex bots, who need all the help they can get atm.


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-19 23:01:46 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

I agree... this would be a good thing to try.. and see how it goes.


 
Alan [120]
2011-08-19 23:04:05 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

I did a simple 80 pain needles against 80 answerers.

At 70% block, it won about 13% against answerers.
Did 75% and it won 36% against answerers.

That is quite a buff. :) Make it happen Ender!


 
Mithrandon [112]
2011-08-20 06:22:43 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

+1 for 75%


 
Saiyan Z [140]
2011-08-20 08:35:52 🔗
[13 years, 296 days ago]

It used to be 75% early on in bots2. People complained (aka str bots) so it was changed to 70%. I wouldn't mind 75%. Wouldn't make me build a dex bot as my main though as fights are painfully long as it is.


 
Esquire2 [77]
2011-08-22 12:57:14 🔗
[13 years, 293 days ago]

Then I think we test to 75 and see what happens.


 
Esquire2 [95]
2011-08-26 12:12:23 🔗
[13 years, 289 days ago]

TTT...

Ender?


 
Grottesca [108]
2011-08-26 12:54:41 🔗
[13 years, 289 days ago]

I'm all for it :)


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-08-26 20:03:52 🔗
[13 years, 289 days ago]

Sorry, I'm not going to be doing any game balance changes for awhile until I work up a proper testing system.


 
Necro [76]
2011-08-26 22:30:13 🔗
[13 years, 289 days ago]

Yay for pre-release testing! :D


 
neps [167]
2011-08-27 06:43:45 🔗
[13 years, 289 days ago]

Wouldn't expect any less from Ender.


 
Endex [110]
2011-08-27 11:56:31 🔗
[13 years, 288 days ago]

I really hope he can get to it rather soonish though.


 
ScarlettD [65]
2011-09-08 05:51:01 🔗
[13 years, 277 days ago]

I really hope that is sometime soon, i like dex build and ive now hit the 70% cap, Im only 65.. is this my limit? =[

There are pretty much 3 spec's to bots, str/bal/dex (all others come into one of those 3), atm 1 out of 3 bot specs are gibbed..

Imagine playing an rpg, or an fps game with classes where 1/3 of them are just not viable, think about that. That's this game!

Please work in this asap!


 
Number Two [79]
2011-09-08 05:52:37 🔗
[13 years, 277 days ago]

its like playing avp with alien. sucks for you, but much fun


 
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