This place has been up for quite some time, I just hit level95 and I see basically 15 bots with almost the same name, so people are boosting themselves on themselves .. wouldnt it be more fun to just wipe this place, start it over, and making you have to register an email and only have 1 account/bot per email?
This would enable people fighting each other more, using train more as it would be more useful when theres not so many people on ever single level, I mean there was like 40-60 bots per level up to 80, thats kinda bullshit to me :P
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Take it easy Gpof, he's relatively new :)
@Fleke - basically people have put a lot of time into creating their bot "infrastructure", which lets them level up quick, get kudos whenever they need to and get energy easily. They wouldn't be very happy (and it wouldn't be very fair) for Ender (the creator) to reset their hard work.
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Nah thats always the problem with wiping a place, but if the big people also try to look at it objectively and not just from the point that theyre huge and can get even bigger.
I doubt this game was made with the plan that everyone is gonna make 10 bots and boost themselves, never fighting others, just to get bigger and bigger.
Now that I know how energy works aswell im POSITIVE that the people with multiple bots also use multiple clans to max out their energy gaining which kinda just feels like cheating :P The guy with the most bots, is winning, not the one with the most skills or the guy who puts down the most time, but the one with the most bots.
Im not that new, ive just had a break, but id just want people to play the game like it was meant and not the way its allowed to cause it wasnt fixed from the start :P
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I thought neps, besides having the most bots (1K something?), also has put the most time into the game. As far skills there not much, it's just knowledge based with use of the build calculator. Just saying...
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Games change from their perspective "points of view" because players transform them into what they want based on the direction given by the creator. This is what has occurred. This game has been transformed by us (the players) with what we have been given, and so you're suggesting we throw out everything that has occurred and start a new game? Essentially that is what you are asking for, a whole new game. If you want that then go make it. If you want we have here then adapt.
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Also quit suggesting to remove the games core elements, albeit they may not have been in the mind of the creator but it is what is now.
If you can't win because you don't want to put forth the effort required of the games system don't suggest something that will completely change the game. If you're not satisfied with mediocrity then change the way you play. Otherwise play the game the way you want to play, knowing full well it won't put you on top, and be happy with that.
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Rofl core elements? I just want to play the game it was meant to played, not against people with 12 different proxys to boost themselves, in how many games are you allowed to multiplay? Youre "allowed" to multiplay here cause there wasnt fixed a limit from the start and I know a botwipe would never happen, but its always hilarious to hear the guys who are the biggest whine since they wouldnt stand a chance against the game from scratch again
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@fleke3: the problem about your suggestion is that the best players already know the best builds for each level. Any person can figure them by spending some time with the bots calculator and the fights simulator.
So, the implementation of your suggestion would result on this: the currently best players would make all the same build for certain level (continuing to be the best players). So, if we all have the same build, how can I be better than the others if every fight I do results in 50%-50%? of course I would try to find the weakest bots (worst players that dont know the best builds - normally the new players) and rape them so I could have a ratio a bit higher than 1.0. I would not fight the others with the same build than me (like what happens now). For me this seems very boring. I would definitively quit the game because it would be impossible to be the best, just equal to the other best players.
This happens because of the mechanics of the game. Simply as that. So the only way to be better is to build more bots than other players (with some strategy of course, if you build shitty bots you can't use then to dump for example) and play more than the other players.
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i really cant imagine what neps is going to say e has put so much time and effort into playing this game
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but its always hilarious to hear the guys who are the biggest whine
Oh the irony.
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Rofl core elements? I just want to play the game it was meant to played, not against people with 12 different proxys to boost themselves, in how many games are you allowed to multiplay? Youre "allowed" to multiplay here cause there wasnt fixed a limit from the start and I know a botwipe would never happen, but its always hilarious to hear the guys who are the biggest whine since they wouldnt stand a chance against the game from scratch again
Obviously your interpretation of how this game was meant to be played varies to what the actual creator of this games does. Had he wanted it to be 1 bot per player then he would have implemented that, he obviously didn't so you're obviously an ignorant dumb ass.
Also, I don't have to "proxy" to log onto multiple bots. The game allows me to log onto multiple bots using my individual IP. Also there wasn't a fixed limit from the start because he wanted people playing on more than one bot.
Your suggestion is asinine and as ignorant as you are, so go play a game that your ideas fit and quit whining because this game isn't what you want.
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@Esvrainaz
Not sure how people define the "best" bot either, id say the highest level guy is the strongest :)
And leveling wihout multibots would give grinder a chance over those who just reads a guide and follow it since when youre at the top, you dont even have anyone to fight against, training is the only way to go further which would make you forced to implement con and intellect alot more, thereby making the current "best build" not the best one anymore
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From the start though I basically just wanted bots that werent used to be removed so there wasnt 100 different bots for every level up to lvl100, so youd actually have to bother with train now and then
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@flek: If you want to train you can do a leveler bot...
You can do whatever you want in this game. Thats why this game is good. You just need to set personal goals and work for them. If your goal is energy, just make whatever is necessary. if you dont care about energy or ratio but you want to reach ghigh levels, do a leveler bot. if you want to do the best bot for one certain level, do the best build you can even if it the armours cant be replaced when they break (workshop freaked bots).
The best bot isnt only the higher one. You should always consider the level. Of course the best bot at lvl 100 is weaker than a lvl 150 one so you need to compare your bot with the others of same level. For example, a boy of 15 years can be the best world runner for his age group but ofcourse it wouldnt be the best of the world because of his age.
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Not sure how people define the "best" bot either, id say the highest level guy is the strongest :)
"Best bot" is probably best defined as a bot with a build that wins the majority of fights against any different builds at the same level. The way you say it is like saying the best basketball player is whoever makes the most points in his career.
And leveling wihout multibots would give grinder a chance over those who just reads a guide and follow it since when youre at the top, you dont even have anyone to fight against, training is the only way to go further which would make you forced to implement con and intellect alot more, thereby making the current "best build" not the best one anymore
Ok, I really don't understand the way you're thinking this through. If you're the #1 leveler, and there's no multibotting, you cannot score any energy other than idle. If you aren't scoring energy, there's no fucking point to your bot being "good" other than for the sake of exp rate. As far as a best build goes... all forms of ingenuity vanish as soon as you put on a TA. TA is the only weapon to go with if you want a competitive bot at impractical levels, which like I suggested, is impractical and pointless (at least at this point in time).
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