suggestions

I seriously think you need to bring clan wars back from bots 2 nobody plays this game because it's boring and it's text based. Now it's more like a race then a battle and it seems to me that eternal and escapism are the only active clans on here. When I used to play bots 2 on blue server there used to be atleast 10 clans competing it just seems eternal win it every month.

I think your recollection of bots2 is flawed. Sure you could set the hostility but the hostile spots were always set to whore clans. So the race became all about who had the best resources and whore clans available.

On bots4 the whores are available to all which at least evens the playing field a little.

I can see no reason how this suggestion will improve the game.

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You are entitled to your own opinion.

A fact isn't an opinion though. ln bots2, clan diplomacy was mostly used to war whore clans. There were some attempts to start 'real wars', but didn't really catch on.

there used to be atleast 10 clans competing

I'm positive that never happened..

So am I.

If you want a battle try onlining people or stripping someones dumpers. But i doubt you will enjoy the retaliation you get lol.

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That would be real war :)

Also fun; fuck up people's NaN / 100.0 ratio runs. You'll make friends for lyf :)

I'm pretty sure there was pal

If you want War turn to samulii I'm positive you'll love his reaction if war is what you want ;)

I'm pretty sure there was pal

Assuming that's in reply to me. It's a limited data set, but show me a month where "at least 10 clans" were competing for first: http://edmazur.com/bots/clanhallof_fame.php

Jans I was probably playing this game before you them stats are only from 2008!

Really? If you played bots2 for sooooooooooooo long, you should know who Jans is...

I was on blue server so I can't remember

I could have sworn blue had Jansindex too

Blue was created after Green, and I know for a fact Jans played green before I joined in 2003. I played blue very heavily and there was never a 10 clan competition month. Period.

http://imgur.com/OgRqsRH

29 new messages. you were popular then!

And they were all from Juv0, telling me what a noob i was :(

I never said you were a noob jans! :)

It still makes me laugh to see that Jans used to gain wins and clan score. Hahahhaa, oh the memories.

As for this thread, real wars were non-existent much for the same reason they are on here. Everyone has similar builds and it takes forever to kill each other. People want wins, cs, energy, levels etc. with as little effort as possible. You could say that dumpers are an improvement but to me they are just whores that you camp a ton more. If you think of it, since all energy values have been increased 10 fold over clan score values, the energy you gain dumping (8-10 energy) is the same as the 1 cs you got from losing to another bot. I'd say go back to whores if not just for the speed increase haha. You're all spending tens to hundreds of hours getting all these stars and wins and spending millions of kudos and doing the exact same thing you all did in bots2 with whores, except now it's worse. And it makes me endlessly laugh.

-Zal, a guy who knew Jans in 12 Monkeys when it was founded and been around since 2002-2003 or so.

The reason people build dumpers is that we want a more secure source of energy. Granted this was more important in the beginning of bots4, old habits die hard.

What's more secure than having 3 diplomacy spots and owning all the clans you fight against even though they all had different IPs because floR didn't like you using the same IP? I think dumpers are better in a certain respect, in that can gain a fairly large amount of energy off a few dumpers in comparison to the 10-100 targets you had in the cs system. A clan like Sunday pills with 20 dumpers had enough energy in it to give it's owner a top 10 platinum, something that took much longer before. But this just streamlines the process a wee bit. The allure of almost endless cs to be gained in a day kept people playing bots2 so long as you knew enough people and/or played enough.

Bots4 = bots2 but you camp more and level easier due to buffs. The rest is all about the amount of time you invest. But the more camp time is a general fact unless you use whores, most of which were made by me and a few others that used to or now support the game. There's not much point in making whores because you have to be SELFLESS to maintain targets that anyone can hit, and the human mind tends to the SELFISH side. So therefore a billion dumpers are made instead.

I like dumpers more than whores for that reason Zal. They're mine and no one is going to hit them except me. But if clan diplomacy returned, so would whores, but on a smaller scale because energy is a finite resource, clan score wasn't.

I´ve made whores to Zal... not in the same scale as you ofc :P

Also, thanks for making whores for the community!

I was going to make a public post, but I think everyone should get together and clan all the whores we own.

I like that idea long as someone else takes care of the treasury

I'll take care of everything. I own a lot of whores I just gotta get with Rith to get the passwords (Zal might have some)

If Benny, Shoy, and the rest of the game clans everything and there are targets for players it might boost popularity, since energy is slowly becoming finite.

I don't have access to any whores anymore. Gave away everything. I can put this bot in it though, it's a ratio whore.

If you go with it though, go with Tatanka haha. But the treasury is fairly prohibitive for this to ever happen. Escapism only has 62 members and has a daily tax of 782,782,976. Imagine combining hundreds upon hundreds of whores together in one clan. Either the clan treasury formula would have to change or you get a team of high level players training 24/7. Ender is unlikely to do option A and B seems unlikely although trainers seem to play this game more than anyone else it seems lol. GO BACK TO TRAINING POKEMON SCRUBS

I train both!

A clan of 20 - 40 bots would take around require only hours to fill treasures for 60 days. That's pretty easy to manage :)

I like the whore clanning idea, and I can help with the treasury :)