suggestions

Obviously your not going to change the clan limit ed because you like this and the system is great but I was thinking what happens when we want to retire our bot or take months off. Not so much the clan but just 1 person, obviously were going to want to be as active as we can but we don't want to kick loyal members just to still be active. So I was thinking there should be a garage or bench area in the clans.

The 20 active bots will get Energy like all other clan bots but the bench bots will still be in the clan but can lose energy or gain it. There energy still goes into the total energy (for previous months) But they wont gain energy for this month. This way old people like jans could step aside and run the clan or people like Rivan, Basher so on could actually take months off without having to worry about being kicked because there not active enough after gaining 200k energy in 1 clan.

Really like this suggestion.

Would like to add to the 'think-tank' for this one.
Once a bot gets moved onto the bench, it's monthly energy should 'reset' (counted towards total, but not for the month), this way you can't protect monthly gain in the standings while you level your bot some more.

Like this suggestion, especially once clan forums come into play, people can still keep in contact with their buddies.

So basically a variation of http://bots4.net/forum/4/606 ?

But I don't like members being able to opt-out individually. I think IF something like this is implemented, it's a decision that needs to be taken on clan-level. "We're not going to compete this month" *switch*

The limited clan size of 20 members does not allow for individual members to say "hey i'll be gone for a month, i'm gonna bench myself". That simply means he'll have to be kicked if the clan is aiming to win.

Either all of the clan is 'in', or all 'out'.

Hmm, didn't fully read correctly if that is the case.

The benching of a member (so it does not count to the clan limit) should be done by a leader (or anyone else getting permission for it).

This also to prevent 'spy bots' who opt out at the end of the month, to give -30k energy.

Active members should always stay 20, so it should be possible to switch (at cost of active energy being reset for those bots)

i like what jans is saying more. either all in or fuck off for the month.

Jans is referring to a different suggestion though.

What FTP and me say, is more of a community aspect. So you don't have to kick friends from a clan if they can't be active.

They just become a member that does not count towards the points, the energyscore, the rankings. Just inactive, enjoying the clan forum.

I know from my old clans in Bots2 that the clan forums where always nice due to the different amount of people you had. Having only 20 makes this a lot less.

See it as a raid in some kind of MMO, then you can also bring only 20 people and the rest have to wait. The rest is part of the community though.

The point is not just so we can sit out but think if Jans were to quit the game again and wanted to stay in the clan we really couldn't stay competive but a bench area lets us put players off to the side who are inactive or not ready for clan competition. I love greens idea as when you get put off to the side you could lose all monthly energy. This will be good so if you have multiple bots you can rotate them in per month so you don't have to camp as much or put Clan Leveling bots in there...it allows you to created a bigger clan if you want but at no disadvantage to smaller clans. 20 players on 1 bot will be just as good as 5 on 4 bots. This is a damn good idea Jans and you know it so suck my floating flap of skin that is my scrotum.

Imagine having a 20 - 30 or 20 - 20 slot...I just think it would be better for the clan status...going to be more fun having 10 - 15 people in a clan then it is 4 - 8 people

There's nothing wrong with the idea. I like it. It's basically like a sports team. You have 30 guys and you have to select 20 to play ball. It's nice. People can say "i'm working on my bot this month, let someone else ES" (has that caught on yet?)

I'm a bit torn though. From a clan leader point of view, it's definitely something i'd want. It's a way to keep people in your clan, who'd otherwise leave or be kicked, so that's a huge plus!

But when i look at it from a developer's point of view, it's a complicated thing to realize. A lot of work for Ender, and does it enhance gameplay that much? Not really. The only gains are: people get to stay in their clan, keep their total-energy and chat in clan forum.

My suggestion in the other thread accomplishes basically the same thing, and is less work to realize. But this isn't about who's idea is better. It's about who's scrotum is flappier. You win :)

ewww... flappy scrots... thats diiirrttyy haha

I don't know it would be that much work to implement. Basically you could just have a special rank for the inactive bots.

Damn it, give us an edit button!

Yea i suppose a special rank could work. 'inactive', or something. For instance:
- max 20 active members
- max 10 inactive members

Making someone 'inactive' resets his monthly score of course. But there should be a time lock as well; once a member has gone inactive during a month, he can't be active again for hmm i'd say a week. Or it would be abused.

agree with the post above this =)

damn you jans!

Doesn't matter, you agree with that post as well ;)

well yes =) but that is beside the point lol

>>> Making someone 'inactive' resets his monthly score of course. But there should be a time lock as well; once a member has gone inactive during a month, he can't be active again for hmm i'd say a week. Or it would be abused.

agreed on that point
-gr33n

Bah! Just raise the clan limit to 100 and let's get it on! :D :D

even 35? or 40? that aint to much bigger than it is already and it aint to big either =) more energy more targets =)

You go girl!

So were in agreement Jans, there should be in Inactive/Retired list?

As long as I can permanently steal a inactive slot.

Does the game record energy gain after a month has finished as a total energy ever? like the old clanscore?

Yes it does.