clans

make secondary bots, form new clan, compete for first, profit

Yes.

:)

If you're there I am there sir.

You, Sir Shoe, have just won the whole of Bots4!

funny thing is, we from eternal are probably talking about it more than other people are.

give us a run for the win guys, do some merges, assemble a team that makes it worthy for us to play.

or else it will become boring

give us a run for the win guys, do some merges, assemble a team that makes it worthy for us to play. or else it will become boring

That's our new tactic.

Which one? Mergers or making us get bored?

Do you see any merges?

• Ignore them
• get them bored
• they stop energizing
• PROFIT!!!

Great guys great, advertise The Plan all over the forum.

Crab whistler has the idea :D

it might work...

it might not work so good for the game

I don't need opponents to motivate me to score, I still have my 10M total energy goal to work towards.

I also have my own scoring 'schedules' and stick to them regardless of what anyone else is doing.

Eternal's new slogan:

"Fuck yall, we have a scoring schedule!"

I myself use the word "quota," but it's all semantics and personal preference really.

this could easily be achieved by having a clan made of neps & skumi

rank   level   username            energy month

3       [53]    Bountiehunter      57,261   (x40.90)
5       [47]    skumi12            44,626   (x31.88)
6       [35]    Dragonmaw          42,337   (x30.24)
7       [39]    Alan               37,998   (x32.76)
8       [64]    poophead6          34,946   (x24.96)

                           Total  217,168   

Moral of the story, these five guys could be within 90k energy of our entire clan.

I thought the moral of the story was that good players wanted to join Eternal so they could go for the easy monthly wins?

There was a story?

I think there are enough people that are actively playing that other clans should be able to have easy monthly wins as well, its just they are spread too thinly at the current time.

Eternal only won because Off and Rapture let us, so now that he's not playing...who knows?

I think "easy monthly wins" is putting it a bit too easy. If there was a clan full of the top scorers in the game, Eternal would probably stop at nothing to level them/attack them with their dump bots and other random things. Not saying its in bad taste since your freely able to do such things but people get tired of doing the same thing and having the same thing happen to them every time they try. Hell, I could have 100k energy in 3 days, with nobody else in my clan helping, and still some asshole would try to level me out of my range for no reason. It only gets worse when your in a clan that is actually trying for 1st.

Makes me long for the days of bots2 when clans were mostly equal and did not have to rely on any other tactics than getting the highest cs. Back then I used to enjoy spending 10 hour days fighting and talking etc. whereas now you do the same thing in 1-2 hours. The forums used to be so fun and people were so casual. Now its all go hardcore and spend every waking moment gathering energy/shopping for the next build since somebody just leveled you up for gaining all that energy.

inb4 somebody accuses me of crying and/or says u mad bro?

Cause you know, your all so fucking predictable.

u mad br-

Aw man, you got me. Fawk u. :)

yeh but back then people couldn't score in a clan unless they had a bot that was 100+

if you would have played here like on bots2, meaning having lvl 100+ bot, i really really doubt anyone would put energy into leveling your lvl 100+ bot...

and eternal was strong from first month tbh. was just a lucky coincidence to get so many good people, and now we got plenty. but hey, its not my fault that for instance we were the first to remember calling shoegazer in, it makes a difference if he is scoring for eternal or someone else, it really does. imagine 2 or 3 players like him and that adds up to alot.

right now, we cant be beat. (tbh im not even playing)

When there are only ~60 good people in the game.

30 are in Eternal.
Some in Atreides
Some in Rapture
The rest are scattered.

It's just not fair.

You do know that alot of the people in the clan were not originally in the clan if you count beta. I called in the people no one really approached them or tried even. Rivan kerrod in ascendance in beta. True they used to be my clan mates in blue but still.

Bazza a known lone wolf and occassionally clan supporter took me several convos to talk him into joining.

Neps and smeagol both were lone wolfs in beta as well.

Champion used to be in Aflac and then AWOL or like 1-2 months before I asked him to stop being idle and join us.

There's lots of others but I think I made a point. Also yes being number one helps but that's not just the only reason..

It's like no one tries to unite a bunch of good players, apart from me and tbh only Tinting remotely achieved it.

Most clans rely on previous affiliations to make clans or get players such as rapture and atreides though tbh atreides never tried to be a elite clan like I had it in mind from the onset.

Oh and iam actually gonna help all the clan leaders here. If you say: "Yes Sera you recruited all these people ages ago and there are none left now" your seriously mistaken. Stop being a mindless drone who just clicks and gets alot of energy. Yes you as a clan leader would have to set an example, but if you also spend time actively recruiting people, you will get alot more out of it in the end. If you just recruit two players that get 100k+ every month you probably have justified yourself having 0 energy that month, as not many players will get 200k+ in a month.

Here are some players that I always had an eye on but never recruited and I doubt many other people tried. By telling you guys you should start being more aware, and stop being silly and just complain Eternal is dominating because we got all the good players. Theres lots of good players- no1 tries to combine them.

Im not saying these players will join you. Or will even score alot. They have the potential to score alot. Dont try to recruit those players if your next month is gonna suck. Give them a goal, a vision. Convince those players. Dont just say join us then we gonna win. Make sure if you say that, your gonna give us, Eternal a good fight or you will loose those players forever, as those players being majorly lone wolves will hate seeing their work done for nothing. If you get 5-6 good players and have 5-6 good players yourself, such as Atreides, Sithlords, Rapture, then you say that and you might have won yourself their respect even if you dont win the month.

Also dont forget some of the levelers might not always score for you. But they surely might consider scoring for you for one month. And those guys have bots level 130+. how many of you have reached level 130+?

Trio. Prominent top player last month. Minimal dumpers. Several high level int bots before. Potential energy: 200k+. Lone wolf

Rithy. AoC blue player. Lots of bots. Potential energy: 200k+. Lone Wolf.

Alan. Known player to not last in a clan longer than 2 month in bots4. lots of bots. Potential energy: 200k+. Currently in Sithlords, not saying you should steal him, but he will probably join you if you promise him to beat Eternal and actually have the manpower to try.

Renedescartes: High level bots. Lots of bots. Almost no affiliations with most clans, potentially a lonewolf , with some month scoring for Sithlords. Has affiliation to both Sithlords and Eternal players so it might be hard but if you can get him to score a full month on a low level bot he has a potential of 200K+ too.

I dont know what this guy main bot is, but this is one of his main clans:

http://bots4.net/clans/profile/738/Elegance-of-Shadows

This guy has lurked in bots4 for AGES. He has clans, stars, bots. Lots of them. LOTS LOTS of them. Plays everyday. Dont know what he wants to achieve. 250k+ energy if you can make him stay on one bot one clan and score the entire month.

Bwhore. Fields of Babylon. Now that dale is gone FoB is almost an entire clan by himself, thus a lone wolf. 150-200k

TheCause. High level train bots. Lots of bots. His clan The Reason is pretty much himself and Tonc. Get him to even just partially score for you and you can probably get a 100k scorer.

Obemaster. Level bot. Potential output of 50k - 100k.

TheOne. Level bot. Enough levels and bots to get 100k+ if you make him score.

Ghargamel. Level bot. Decent online activity. Approx 50-100k.

Theres a few more but then again I might make this too easy....

Neps and smeagol both were lone wolfs in beta as well.

A level 1 lone wolf maybe, for the entire beta. :)

I didn't even remember I had made a beta account until I tried to register when the game went live and the error message told me the name was already taken.

Wow Sera, thanks for the great compliment! :) I really don't know what else to say.

deja vu :s

Alan. Known player to not last in a clan longer than 2 month in bots4. lots of bots. Potential energy: 200k+. Currently in Sithlords, not saying you should steal him, but he will probably join you if you promise him to beat Eternal and actually have the manpower to try.

Very true.

I would include the Bruces but im not sure what their commitment outside their own family clan is Angelo, Piles :)

dang - you're really in tune with the players of the game, much kudos

Theres about 6 more potential 100k+ players, not in any major clans, but if i reveal all wheres the fun. The ones i mentioned is a good mix between lone wolves, int levelers and semi clan affiliated players.

where was my name for recruiting in beta? :(

I completely agree with Sera, my recruiting attempts have got my clan a lot further than my own energy attmepts.

I think inviting new players and teaching them to score big energy is very rewardable :)

I think major trophy, equipment and other updates will attract and retain players more than a new #1 clan will if you ask me.

I'd say a competitive clan is one new players want to be involved in.

I find it sad I'm not on your list Sera. Between my scorers I have over 1 million energy. In bots2 I had over 1 million cs between my scorers which in retrospect is far harder to achieve since 1 mill energy is like 50k wins while 1 million cs is 500k wins. I have got 160k in a month so far and that was me barely trying.

But besides that I agree with Champ. In bots2 I felt as though there were plenty of things to do while here there is little to nothing. I can't make a fun build and use it to energy score because somebody with a freaked build will take all the energy I make with it. There is no point in making a high level scorer other than the prevention of somebody leveling you up. I used to like making level 100+ bots because jans score decided that a 3.0+ ratio level 100+ bot is ideal for scoring. With those level 100+ bots I made level 100+ whores. With those whores we had level 10-150 ratio whores and a really busy market. All of these things along with no tournaments, no competition and little more to do than make freaked bots or whores or talk hurt the game. I used to spend 10 hour days on bots2 and have tons of fun and now I come on here for 5 minutes and I'm already bored. But this is just my opinion.

The short version of the last paragraph is: bots2 was more fun I believe.

I agree that:

level having an influence on energy/clan rankings = good
tourneys/more stuff to do = good

I also agree that neps is awesomesauce and has already won the game.

I wish having a higher level helped you in the clan race :<

Your on the list zal. But your allegieance being mostly Atreides, your own or Civilian made me refrain to post it as I don't count recurring off a top clan such as Atreides helpful, even if you have some bots in smaller start up clans :)

As I said there's about 5-7 more players in insignificant clans or lone wolfs I didn't mention I choose players from varying aspects such as lone wolfs, levelers and multiple bots makers rather than just focusing on players that have a proven track record. :)

But don't worry I had u on my sights since u scored with civilian with shoegazer being whiskey lone and when agatha also still played.

I don't particularly like being a low level, what the fuck is this holy sword shit give me demon hammers!

I have no allegiance to anybody other than my friends. And I have no idea what your talking about with Atreides. I don't have a bot in that clan and never have. I'm friends with Chapo and gr33n/Viper-X and others and have let Chapo use like 10 of my dump bots one month but that is about it.

Its not that I hate Eternal Sera, it was just that my friends thought it would be fun to try beating you guys. We failed, we all moved on.

Btw, Shoegazer wants me to join you guys. And I can't really deny him, I would love to join. My ingrown sense of fighting the big clan has just been inherent in me since the days of Dark Lotus on green and GameFAQS on blue. Maybe I just like a challenge every now and then lol.

I also agree that there are a number of good energy scorers and general great human beings that would make a great clan together. Too bad there are so very few leaders that can get those big scorers.

Leading a clan is a lot of hard work and I respect those who do it and even more those who do it well. As for recruiting, you don't have to be a leader/owner to do that, anyone can try to motivate their friends and ask them to join with them, that's how it all starts. So even though Eternal doesn't necessarily need my help in attracting new members, I do my part to try to get my friends in and see that they are getting the most out of the game, like with Zal.

Also my part in here wasnt to point out every good player, to be honest I kept some players out cause I dont want it to be common news, let them do some of their homework. In the players I pointed out I already pointed out two very potential players that are somewhat not that prominent as they rarely play on one same bot.

Not gonna do someone elses entire job, but its to encourage others that there are these individuals out there, waiting to be lured.

these individuals out there, waiting to be lured.

IT'S A TRAP! Hahahaha, just had to XD

And yes Sera, your point is well taken. There is potential in everybody to be a great player I believe, from the people who make one bot but lose all their energy in their clan to the person that thinks that gaining 100 energy is all they will do for the month. All that it takes to be a good leader or a great player is to spend some time learning about your new teammates and motivating them (and knowing how to make a good scoring bot I suppose). That is why we remember pete or stu or asian as leader and great players, because they believed in what they did. We need a new generation to get that same philosophy.

Maybe ill consider scoring hard core like i use to in the old days? Dependingo n mood i can easy score big, Depending on mood! Anyways, moo Mistertwo moo!

peaceeeeee my nefarious comrades in the two dimensional world that is ours to inhabit

*cough* Dynasty *cough*

Great leaders?

Alan and I would beg to differ.