This is of course a slight whinge. I created a clan earlier, and have since been getting some clan energy as you do. I log out, come back, to find that I've been mugged of every point. Not a problem.
I'm wondering though, how it's possible that bots that are up to 12, TWELVE, levels lower than me, manage to beat me every time without fail. I didn't think my bot build could possibly be that bad..
I did however notice that the majority of my defeats, were to people highly acclaimed and known from Bots2 .. Do you all know some sort of build that enables you to level up quickly, while still maintaining a ridiculously high win ratio ? How the fuck is it possible, to balance INT with the others, enough to beat a bot 12 levels higher with ( I believe ) a half decent build ?
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You sound mad. I think I took some of your energy.
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Yes. Yes you did.
That's not what's bugged me. It's the whole level difference thing. And I'll check my build in a sec, but I'm hoping to re-dis, so I do have 30 INT in there. I'm also using silver edged axes.
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give me your current build and I will show you how to make your attackers cry :)
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go away off, he is my free energy!
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I don't like this energy system, so... ^^
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Alright, well it's changed around a lot recently, but right now it is
Strength: 162 + 17 = 179
Dexterity: 52 + 13 = 65
Constitution: 40 - 5 = 35
Intelligence: 30 + 2 = 32
Armor defense: 462
I understand CON is a big problem, but I'm no genius here. I'm aware there are 'perfect builds' etc, but I've no idea what any of them are. I'm just sort of going with the flow :/
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to start off with the obvious, 'perfect builds' have 10 int.
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20 int = 5 levels.
The 20 int that is put into str/con/dex and therefore better armor and weapons equals another 5 levels = 10 levels.
Obviously 10 levels below u can beat u.
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I understand the logic, but then how do these people still manage to level up at ridiculous pace ?
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Because I have 5450 wins? Because when you rape bots(and have 5 int) with 1.0+ ratio you still get too much xp.
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Could you give me an average amount you personally get ?
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That is a lot of fights .. There have been a couple of bots I've managed 200K+ on, which is why I've kept this INT all this time. Inevitably though it seems to have gotten a lot harder to find a beatable bot for a large amount of exp.. Maybe an early re-dis is a good idea after all. Off has kindly helped me out, I'll give the build a shot.
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i agree with sera. Except for the intelligence, you're doing fine (this sounds dumb ;p ).
if you can post your armours we can further help you, but seeing your stats i can say a few things:
Constitution: Do not use the -con armours as a rule (you have Gravepalm?). There might be exceptions, but just don't.
High absorb: you're not wearing the top armours with high defense and good bonuses. Take Iron Pelt as main armour. I think you are either using Rockfleece or Rattlecage. They do have nice bonusses, but if you look closely, they only have 200 defense. Take any 400+ armour and your absorb will dramatically increase. The same holds for the other armours, however the gain in defense is quite low here, so better bonusses might be more important than defense. plan ahead. Look at the next weapon you want to have, and what armours you can wear then. They might change the bonus in str/dex from 20/10 to 10/20. If you do not know this you end up with to little str and to much dex (and no weapon) hit for forsreaver (bitch sword as intermediate) as next weapon. This is around what you could be: http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=62&s=162&c=40&d=52&i=30&b=59&h=45&g=23&f=14&h1=175&h2=175&sh=
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Ah that's also very helpful, thank you sir. I now instantly feel bad for attacking you before, not that I came close to winning, but a failed thief still gets jailed and all that.
But that's very useful, I think I may try and shuffle around a bit towards that, and then perhaps re-dis to the build I was just given by Off. This is a first bot after all, much room for improvement. Thanks again :)
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well except for saying the obvious, we got less int thus more other stats, we also use armors that take int, and give other stats, i get 11 levels alone with my armors, couple that with the fact u got 5 levels worth of int, a bot 15 levels lower than you should be able to beat you, couple that with the fact that he most probably has better absorb rate, and ure screwed.
As for leveling, experience you gain from a fight varies (among other things) on your opponents ratio, so if you kill 0.2 ratio bot, and i kill 3.0 ratio bot, i might even get more xp than you, with much lower int. I dont remember the exact math, but building strong bot with 10 int and fighting high ratio bots results in very fast leveling.
"Your bot gains 20,612 experience points (2,215,828 xp to next level)."
this is against 1.57 ratio bot (hi fnix :D)
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