complaints

What's with the changes to the xp received at level1 from training bots?

I didn't notice it on my c.beta bot but it's taking forever to progress from level1 on this one.

The first training bot provides as good as zero exp/coin, while the second provides diddly squat as well, and you can lose against it too.

Are you trying to encourage fighting from level 1? (as opposed to level 5) - with everyone having the same stats at level1, it would mean you're a 50/50 chance of winning a fight so after a few fights at worst you should have leveled (instant level for a win)

Any reason for the change however?

Noticed it too, decided after I leveled once or twice, I didn't give a fuck.

To be clear, there was no change in the experience received from training bots at level 1, or any level for that matter. What changed is that you don't start with daggers anymore.

On one hand, this only matters for maybe your first 10-15 minutes of playing, so it's not high priority. I also recognize however that it could be discouraging for new players, so I may go back and rebalance it.

Most of the feedback I've seen so far has been "give us daggers to start out with", but I like the idea of having to buy your first item and seeing that slot light up, so any rebalancing will likely come in the form of an experience adjustment rather than an equipment change.

Makes sense mate.

I remember you mentioning the dagger change earlier but didn't realise the effect it had on training for the first level as i must've fought straight up on the other bot instead.

It was just a bit offputting exp wise that's all and as you mentioned, it may be a slight turn off to new people. That said, if you're planning on leaving the level1 fight option in, a single win will level the bot so it's not a bad way to encourage people to try it out (though its a pain getting those first 5 redis!)

Yeah, now I have to train 3 times to get my 5 redispoints! This is outrageous..

My thoughts exactly! :p

in bots2 it was only 2 training fight which was perfect, since you could buy your 5 redis points in between, now it took me like 8 training fights. And we all know those fights seem to last forever:S...

The chance to win a fight at lvl 1 is greater than 50% :)

If you're the one attacking, that is.

Ed said something along the lines of "It makes the those first levels worth it when you buy that first weapon. Seeing the whitebox in the showroom turn to green is a sort of milestone in make your bot"

Well you know i would love to BUY my first weapon and armor but all these assholes keep attacking me and everytime i log on i have 1 kudo and i can never build up enough while i play to buy it so yea deduce from there

takes ages before you get the daggers tho its boring ;(

takes ages before you get the daggers tho its boring ;(

From what i understand it takes about 15 to 20 mins? For a first time player, that might be a little long.

Ender can keep an eye on the stats though. If too many new lvl1 accounts are abandoned, it's a clear sign.

Well with the fights that take ages and having to buy redis points, It took me about 45 minutes to get to level 3 with 2 daggers equipped.
Not denying I might have other tabs open waiting, but still..