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Vegan Project [219]
2024-06-21 22:08:51
[184 days ago]

Hey, has anyone done the math on when Dreadplate, Vanquisher Crown, Atlas Gauntlets and Doom Walkers becomes better than Onyx+Heavens Might?

Did some headmath and thinks it becomes better at around 2000 HP, could be wrong.


 
Vegan Project [219]
2024-06-21 22:15:10
[184 days ago]

From a pure EHP standpoint this is ofcourse.


 
Vegan Project [219]
2024-06-21 22:30:00
[184 days ago]

Did some more math, might even be as low as 1500 HP.


 
WARNlNG [119]
2024-06-22 06:01:04
[183 days ago]

uhhmm no


 
Vegan Project [225]
2024-06-22 06:43:49
[183 days ago]

Can delete this thread, I answered my own question. xD


 
Esvrainzas [300]
2024-06-22 07:46:56
[183 days ago]

I didn't understand what you mean by EHP...


 
Vegan Project [225]
2024-06-22 08:01:03
[183 days ago]

Effective health, basicly your total health when countin in your absorb.


 
Vegan Project [225]
2024-06-22 08:03:32
[183 days ago]

But to get the correct answer I would need more math, counting in the dex, str and int loss from switching gear.


 
Vegan Project [225]
2024-06-22 08:10:48
[183 days ago]

As en example

You have 1000 life and 0 absorb, your opponent would hit you for 1000 damage.

You have 1000 life and 90% absorb, your oppenent would only hit you for 100 damage, making you stay alive way longer.


 
Juv0 [134]
2024-06-22 14:53:57
[183 days ago]

Great attention to detail there I must say…


 
Hit Me Baby [251]
2024-06-22 14:54:33
[183 days ago]

Wait, that's how that works?


 
Gpof2 [132]
2024-06-22 16:09:20
[183 days ago]

Effective HP is when accounting for damage reduction/armor or whatever is applicable to the given game yea. In the example with 90% absorb that would result in 10,000 EHP, every point of health is "effectively" worth 10x as much because of the absorb mitigating that much.


 
Execute [415]
2024-06-22 16:16:57
[183 days ago]

Better is a pretty loose term but I'm guessing you mean stronger against other bots instead of stuff like sacrificing winrate for more average exp against a trainbot, even then you should be looking at each individual swap instead of as a whole since each equipment piece swap is a completely different trade off.

Most high level bots will equip dread, vanq, onyx gaunts and march for the tourney swapping the other 2 is questionable since they offer less added absorb for the sacrificed stats, especially onyx gaunts which are pretty op.


 
Vegan Project [226]
2024-06-22 21:13:16
[183 days ago]

Yeah, it all depends on your other stats aswell.. just thought it would be cool to see how it all works out, been wondering a couple of times how good the non-uniques really are compared to uniques.


 
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