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How much base int should I use? And which builds tend to improve faster for higher level training bots?

Balanced bots tend to be good against high lvl training bots..weapons + shield..
THats why im str build so I can test how they work against them.
Idk what u consider a high lvl bot..but atm at lvl146 with 1lvl more till excaliburs im doing just fine with lvling.
About 120m exp/h. (almost 2 billion needed for lvlup).

I'll go for balanced bot then. if he can beat higher lvl training partners sooner :)

17 hours?....
You should be leveling every ~2-3 hours...

shield slows it down, balanced w/o shield is better

I had lvl295 back in the bots 2 blue server..he was balanced build and he was doing just fine with lvling so i rly wanna try str build now..:D
Ender was top1 int bot lvler in bots2 history..so maybe he can give u/us some hints ?

@Alan...yes, im aware now that i typed completely nonsense up there.. Idk how i got to that nubmer..i guess script got crazy. Reseted it now, ill post real xp/hour in 58mins. :D

But you haven't told how much int do you use?

Strength: 340 + 2 = 342
Dexterity: 138 + 4 = 142
Constitution: 78 + 17 = 95
Intelligence: 64 + 29 = 93
66,9% absorb.
Satanic dazzler atm..excaliburs in 1lvl (with raven caw equipped :P)

Ok, I'll have to decide when to jump from 30 to 60 int :)

So here is it..my xp/hour currently is: 184,8m.
Now, it would be cool if TheCause who is balanced bot with dread dealer + shield could type his xp/hour too so we can see the difference between balanced and str build ^^

:) the first one ill show is dual handed(2 dreads) against x-terminator:
Xp rate: 165,275,225/h, goes up and down sometime depending on fight lenght and turing tests :)
ill post some more

Cause,

Are you around the same ballpark figures with regards to con and int?

higher con less int,

str 226 - 4 = 222
dex 239 + 12 = 251
con 105 + 13 = 118 HP 1230
int 50 + 25 = 75
absorb 60.79%
2 dreads equipped atm

Making the most of that equip bug eh? lol

Balance bots aren't going to be able to compete with str bots when it comes do xp gaining from dual wielding, but using a shield might be a different story.

If you are training, it is almost always better to use a shield. You get extra xp from blocking.

"If you are training, it is almost always better to use a shield. You get extra xp from blocking."

But fight lasts longer.

dual wield is faster so far, with a shield only get around 130MIL per hour and that training against x-terminal(375) with dual wield and traning against a lower lvl bot im way faster

Doesn't matter, use the script thing. You'll find in most cases, particularly at the dread dealer level that you are better off using a shield.

You should train against EL TERMINATORE with a shield, even if you lose most fights because of the extra xp bonus from fighting training bots level 450 and above.

^ This

i have checked it both ways, and so far i get faster and more xp in a hour with a dual wield, prolly ill lvl up till masamunes and change back to shield

That shouldn't be the case. It's generally accepted that losing with a shield is better than winning without one. How high have you fought, training bot-wise?

with shield i beat lvl 400 training bot, but with dual wield i dont lose fights from the lvl 300 ones and thus i gain xp much faster, fights lasts 10 sec and give me 900k-1 mil,

Fight higher with shield. You should find that losing to an even higher bot will give you more exp even though the fights last longer.

yes i did that till lvl 146, just changed to dual wield and now its faster

Nvm, there appears to be some sort of language barrier.

no there isint, i know what you mean, fights with shield last around 30 sec, and giving around 1,5-2,4 mil, 600-700k if i loose(fight still usually takes 30 sec then, so ill get around 4-5 mil a min if a win both fights, 2 mil when i loose a fight, when dual wielding i get 6 fights per min 900k 1 mil each which is higher

Are you using Emanuel's script to get these numbers? If not, do it. Then come back with the numbers.

yep, his script,

Then there is some other sort of misunderstanding. If you want to keep trying for the sake of discussion, start with the highest training bot you can fight and work your way down.

Would be interesting to see the results.

When you use a shield, fights are indeed longer. But you get more xp because of all the blocks, and you will probably increase your win % unless you're a strength bot.

And I'd also like to point out that you'll need to train for at least 15 minutes to get a semi-accurate value.

So is it really worth it to go deep DEX + con up until lvl 100?

If you mean pure DEX/CON, then no. Pure DEX is always a bad idea, armors are such an essential part of a botbuild.

Just a correction here, Ender was not the top leveler of all time on bots2, was he Rose.

Mind you it might have been Rose the majority of the time, but that bot wasn't solely rose 100% of the time. Ender's was Ender 100%. Point made.

I'm tired of this 'Rose deserves no respect because she had help' shit. So I shall use numbers to illustrate.

Project X final level 375 with total xp of 49,256,842,177,078

ActiveX final level 387 with total xp of 70,228,478,985,633

That's a whopping difference of 20,971,636,808,555 or the equivalent xp from level 1 to half way through level 346. I certainly did not receive assistance to that degree.

So ye, point made.

Hit a sore spot?

You don't deserve full credit, regardless of how much you did alone compared to how much you didn't. Oh, and I never said you didn't deserve "respect" for the work you did, but the point is Ender ( as well as others) had absolutely zero help. You on the other hand, no matter to what degree it might have been, had help. Period.

Point made.

The numbers don't show everything. As you level you continue to gain xp faster and faster (not to be confused with leveling faster). If someone else were to begin leveling neps' bot, they could say they gained billions of exp in a day, which is absurd if starting from level 1 of course. There's also the mentality of knowing you aren't the only one working on it, which in turn makes becoming #1 more practical to you. I'm sure none of the people who leveled that bot together would have put the same amount of time into a leveling bot by themselves with the same purpose.

I don't mean to belittle whatever your achievements may be Rose, but the illustration you're trying to make isn't very logical. nos has a point to what he said, and he did not say it in a way to disrespect you whatsoever.

Let's just agree that both Ender, rose, and whoever helped rose are all crazy people that belong in the category of neps-grade insanity on this game.

Only 2 bots need to be admired Emanuels and Daz and mine.

New game here buddy. Now we admire Myriads and neps bots instead.

Benny, fist your mother.

Twice.

Lovely.

@OP Apparently fisting Benny's mother is a great way to level up.

He is in no hurry.