suggestions

Could we get an option to change the text size specifically for the links at the end of a battle. Something like a slider would be great, or just a dropdown with whatever intervals up to 300%, or the font size value itself, something like that. Could have smaller values too I guess if somebody is masochistic. All scaled together of course (so it can't be easily abused via ac or whatever if only the correct link was larger). I think this would be a good accessibility option, and general QoL for anybody.

+1

Suggested this before but was met by the "Bots4 Neanderthals" with their usual negativity, so nothing ever happend. Let's see if they come in here aswell.

+1, especially on mobile its shit.

Suggested this before but was met by the "Bots4 Neanderthals" with their usual negativity, so nothing ever happend. Let's see if they come in here aswell.

Where exactly did you suggest this? Couldn't find it.

On this forum, but as it is really user unfriendly I am not gonna bother finding it.. it was like 2 years ago or something like that.

I looked for it, couldn't find it.

Regardless. Seems like a decent enough ask.

Also, I wish Ender would also add the ability to reduce the frames (top and left side). Screen realestate is nice when trying to do other things and play bots on the side.

iirc correctly this was indeed mentioned some years back tied into a mobile support thread. Some heating discussion around it making it easier for clickers ensued & it died a death ...

Regardless, anything that makes the gaming experience better for the player gets a thumbs up from me.

Seems reasonable, but I want to understand the motivation more to figure out what the best solution here is. Below this post, I'm going to leave a series of posts. Click the 👍 emoji if you have that problem (trying this informal poll approach to give people who read this thread but may not care to write out a text reply a way to quickly vote). And of course feel free to write out replies too if you have more to add.

(Side note: As I shared last year, I personally find the overall game UI too tiny as I've gotten older. I usually have this site on 125% or 150% browser zoom.)

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The "fight/train again" links are too small to see/use.

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The overall game font is too small to see/use.

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Font size being too small is an issue for me on mobile.

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Font size being too small is an issue for me on desktop.

understand the motivation more

Mobile link clicking would definitely be one thing, that is not exclusive to the fight and train again links though. Changing equipment, selecting fight targets etc all pretty much require zooming in to click accurately/reliably (at least in my experience).

The other reason that more or less prompted me to suggest this is when using multiple bots. When swiping across the screen clicking 4-5 different windows, it actually requires a fair bit of precision hitting the fight again links, more so the faster you go of course. There's certainly been plenty of times I accidentally hit the wrong link just from inaccuracy, and it's never fun needing to re-navigate multiple times for one target in a minimal sized window! This can probably be said for handful of people playing on one bot as well, but I typically use hotkeys when single logging.

I figured a cheating concern would come about this kind of change, as rose mentioned, which is why I added the caveat of the links at end-of-fight to only be scaled in unison. I'm sure you would have came to the same conclusion with that regardless though.

Interesting poll results so far: 3x for fight/train again links being too small, 7x for font on mobile being too small, 0x for the other 2 - thanks for the feedback. My takeaway is that mobile layout/readability just needs to be improved overall (inclusive of fight/train again links, of course). What Gpof is saying about other game actions on mobile being challenging matches my experience as well. I find myself pinch zooming basically every page on my phone (usually checking forums).

There are some other things I want to get to before digging into mobile layout/readability further, but I agree that this area can be improved a lot. Hopefully there are some inexpensive wins to be had. Stay tuned.

I generally turn my phone to the side, to landscape the links, which typically results in them filling more space (getting bigger) and making it easier. Larger text, more readability while playing on mobile would be good.

The other reason that more or less prompted me to suggest this is when using multiple bots. When swiping across the screen clicking 4-5 different windows, it actually requires a fair bit of precision hitting the fight again links, more so the faster you go of course. There's certainly been plenty of times I accidentally hit the wrong link just from inaccuracy, and it's never fun needing to re-navigate multiple times for one target in a minimal sized window! This can probably be said for handful of people playing on one bot as well, but I typically use hotkeys when single logging.

This is my experience as well.

Playing on mobile can we have a setting to choose in a targets range "show bots only with energy"

in android, i just set this game at x300% zoom in chrome. even though the other texts is so big to look at, the links for fight again and train again is manageable to click that way (since is bigger now and the spacing between the links is bigger) rather than doin it normally without zooming (the links too small and close to each other that i misclick it).

Playing on phone you need to pinch zoom basically everything, including fight links.

Not sure how you would change that without an app or mobile version different to browser. Also seems like a different issue than wanting bigger links for QoL.

Yeah, I did broaden the scope of this thread a bit because I wanted to think about the problem more holistically than just the fight/train links. My suspicion (now proved by the votes) was that it's more generally a problem of mobile layout/readability. I plan to first evaluate whether there are any general fixes for mobile layout/readability that would also improve the fight/train link size issue before adding (yet another) workshop toggle for their size. This should be doable with device-specific CSS, which I believe is the typical way websites implement "responsive design" (i.e. adjusting layouts based on what screen it's being viewed on). Stay tuned.

I didn't play for a while in my phone, but today the fight again links where smaller than they used to be in the past. Their font was even smaller as the normal text of the fight log, but in the past I think these links behaved in the opposite way (they showed in a big font than normal text and they were easier to click without zooming).

I feel like the links are more separated too, which could help clicking them, but this might be because they have a smaller font now.

I don't know if this is particular to my phone or can be reproduced by others. Anyway, today it was harder for me to play than I was used to.

Same here esv. Very small font for the fight links. Making the default font size bigger on my phone, doesnt help either.

Simple fix might be to just be able to change the fight again link by itself in the workshop. 100%, 200%, 300%, up to 500% or so. That way people on mobile can change it to 300% or something and browser can keep it 100%. Mobile stuff tends to have to have a specific app made for it though since the text frame itself would be different.

Another way might be having workshop settings for different resolutions for mobile like:

360×640: Often found in budget smartphones.
414×896: Common in newer iPhones.
601×962: Seen in some high-end Android devices.
1280×800: Typically used in tablets and large-screen phones.

 4:3: Found in older tablets and some iPads.
3:2: Common in older iPhones.
16:9: Standard for many modern smartphones.
17:10: Used in some Android tablets.

That might be able to change the game to usable mobile definitions without destroying the browser based people too.