complaints

Im turning down great guys/gals because of this.

Raise to at least 30 please.

agreed TinTin

This was discussed quite recently in this thread http://bots4.net/forum/1/1894

& wiggins reply from 25 days ago:

Clan sizes will almost definitely be staying at 20.

That being said, I do understand the reasons people want larger clans: bigger playing group, less selectivity, social members don't use valuable space, etc. I have an idea of how I want to address these issues while not changing the clan size (yes, this is really possible). I don't really want to say more about it now though because I haven't worked out all the details yet. So just know that I'm aware of the issues that small clan sizes are creating and I do plan to do something about them.

Ah okey, thanks Rose.

I expected it to be raised even before official release, because this made some issues on Beta period already. But...

I like this, and Tintin's response clarifies why. All those "good guys/gals" can now go make there own clan giving yet another competitive clan to the race further making it even more difficult to win.

As a clanleader, I have to agree with Tintin. I hate kicking friends and rejecting other friends since we simply can't catch 'em all.

Or is that last phrase from a different clan, I don't recall.

Looks like you have two of your own bots there Tintin, thats one way to make room.

It's the best thing for the game.. purhaps their could be a way to ally with other clans with a shared forum or some such but completely separate energy score.

Factions FTW

HURRR

I agree to tintin!

It's the best thing for the game.. purhaps their could be a way to ally with other clans with a shared forum or some such but completely separate energy score.

As alluded to in my quoted response at the top of this thread, I still don't want to get into a long discussion about this just yet (mostly because I haven't fully thought it out yet), but just to give you an idea of what I have in mind, it's basically this. The new clan features I'm thinking about will basically allow you to collect multiple clans together in one shared clan forum, with a penalty (less than completely quitting and rejoining) for moving between these clans. The idea is that this allows for social members as well as trial members, without sacrificing too many of the benefits of small clan sizes.

i just jizzed in my pants

Multi-clanning? Booo

One clan. Stick with it. I don't want other clans reading my forum.

-shrugs-

satisfied

I don't want other clans reading my forum.

Then don't make any friends, don't have a large social network, and don't let Jans into your clan.

problem solved

A simple "Don't participate in the program" would have sufficed. :P

I would like to see a "Social Rank" or perhaps make the size limit higher but only let 20 bots participate in the clan race. Make you chose each month what bots will have the right "rank" or something similar.

I would like to see a "Social Rank" or perhaps make the size limit higher but only let 20 bots participate in the clan race. Make you chose each month what bots will have the right "rank" or something similar.

That makes more sense than being able to 'link' clans together. It's like a sports team that way. You have 30 players and you select the 20 who're on the team. The rest is on the bench and doesn't gain/lose energy.

Not to say some form of alliances between clans can't be fun though.

No, because then that means less clans and less competition... which is obviously what we are trying to promote here.

are you against anything that makes bots4 unique from bots2? do you perhaps want the game to go stagnant and be the exact same as it is now in ten years? or like it was years ago? change is good, it refreshes things, makes it a less boring and stale game.

I really like TinTins suggestion :)

likewise

Not sure who Dragon is talking to :s

i was directing my comment at Asmo

Ahh, well I am Asmo.. and I have a question for you.. how is increasing clan size going to promote competition? Are you fucking retard?

Actually, I was the first one to mention reducing clan size to Ender before closed beta even began, so it is quite obvious I am not the one here trying to make bots4 more like bots2, that would be you.

Try to stop being a girl for once and actually think of an idea that isn't going to make bots4 more like bots2.

We don't want this game to die due to inactivity as well.

lul 3000 wins and 1 loss at level 28.
ASMO TEH WHORE RAPER

You might find this isn't an int bot skipper, probably a bit tough for you to beat.

hmmm asmo I like this benching idea because it allows players to have months off or allows for purely social players or those that simply suck atm coughlunchboxcough

So if each clan has a 25-30 limit but only 20 players can compete, it still keeps the ethos of a small clan, with that little extra ^^

one thing I can say positive about you is that you are really really dedicated to do this thing with the ratio, I can't imagine having to do 3000 fights at that level where average fighting time is 20 seconds, that's like 16 hours of work

30 members would reduce the effective competition by 50%... that is a lot.

I like the idea of sharing a forum with your allies, because that does the exact same thing without effecting competition at all.

Average fighting time is 5-8 seconds soz.. and it's called aiming for a ratio record.. not boring at all.

and what is the current record?

Whatever Asmo just made it.

Also I like the idea of being able to bench lunchbox, it's better than having to kick him if we want to be able to compete.

^ this

Just wondering... If you link with a clan or a bunch of clans as allies. Will the option to fight the friends for energy be there or will it go away?

In essence, this new clan friends / linking thing could produce 2 massive clans when you think about it. (However that is unlikely) Unless the ability to fight your friends for energy remains. In that case what would the sense in being friends other then sharing a forum which doesn't make much sense... Better to go back to 100 member clans. TinTins idea sounds good though...

I really like TinTin's idea. It makes for a great way to split the difference people are having with not wanting to be massacred while in a clan but still be able to join in on all the "reindeer games" :)

Though there should be a stipulation that you must select your next months "competitors" before the beginning of the next month. Shouldn't be allowed to remove and add all through the month.

this^

OMG! I had a good suggestion! Someone write that down please. That baby is going on my CV

It's a pretty old idea actually, but it's good someone revived it ;)

Credit where credit is due; FTP's idea http://bots4.net/forum/4/678

You just had to do it...

;)

i cant help myself..