miscellaneous

How do you feel about the toxicity in the game now compared to some time ago? I feel there is a much more friendly environment after the truce between Lusitania and Apex and people are enjoying the game. Also, the game is more new player friendly with so many whores clanned.

I always thought I was quite nice? :D

And after I posted this, Zach made sure we didn't end the month with 22.222.222 and he declanned the Cr bots that I clanned today and those are Lyrad's bots, I would argue they belong more to Lusitania than to Apex, even though almost everyone has access to them.

He also already said to us that after building so many tourneys last month they are prepared for real wars. This is basically a threat to warn us that if we dare to level even one of their low level tourneys, there will be some nasty consequences like what we did when we took 300k energy of Apex.

Things like this are what makes us dislike Zach. What's the need to tell us you are prepared for real wars when we are in peace? What do you gain by not letting us end with 22.222.222? For someone that always says he doesn't care, your actions tell that it's obviously not true. You like to win, so you get upset when you lose tourney or now that Apex streak ended. Otherwise, I don't see why would you mess with our scoring if you really don't care.

So, I see that things are heading to an hostile environment again. Do we really want it as a community? Do we need it to maintain the competition alive, the hate flowing motivating each team to beat each other? Or should be better to continue into a friendly competition and be gentlemans? Please discuss this, I'm eager to know your opinions and see what the majority of the players want.

Is this post the bots equivalent of "can I speak to your manager"? Or is it just to cause drama because you are bored. Either way you are the one being toxic by trying to shame me on the forum not that I care.

The fact you think you can control what energy a clan lands on is funny and pretty pathetic and I did it to see if you were actually trying to do that, Fish then threatened me because of it so I simply threatened him back, what a surprise.

If I suck a friends dick to help him feel better, does that make me gay?

Yes. I think it does. Makes your friend gay too. As he is getting off while a dude is sucking his dick, and you are getting him off sucking his dick. Definitely both gay.

Just a couple of thoughts:

22,222,222 is a cool number but it's just a number guys. On a multiplayer game that you can change the other players numbers on then you shouldn't be surprised when they do. If this was a single player game and you wanted to get 1,333,337 score or something then sure, nothing stopping you, but this game is flexible in that regard. Try playing nicely though guys, not everything has to be about drama and fighting. It brings down the fun level of the game.

And yes, it is gay. But it's nice you're thinking about your friend's wellbeing too :)

The 22,222,222 isn't that deep really, didn't plan on it or anything just noticed it was close an hour before so asked George to stop scoring. Just another example of Zacs toxicity - no ones allowed to have fun on his watch!

Maybe I found it fun being a different number?

Just another example of what a snowflake you are, you moan and cry about pretty much everything whether it's attacking whores when you are using them, leveling a scorer in a competetive month and now somebody dumping energy on a clans bot, next you will be crying about someone taking your ratio or something else silly like that.

You claim to be creating whores for new players yet today you declanned them all when I attacked them, you have drained players from tourney bots before years back but when somebody else does it they are toxic or a bully. Things are right when you do them and wrong when anyone you dont like does them it's all pretty bizarre, grow up seriously.

Well to start IMO it's ruining the game having so many whores, a fun part of it for me and others is the competetive side in draining them and in effect shutting your opponent down the way it is there is no strategy and its pretty boring, why do you need more whores clanned there is literally 500 ziz bots and another 500 or so at 100 anyway.

It's your own words Zach, don't complain about we declanning whores. We will clan them for the new players on our team :P

I'm not complaining about you declanning whores, I don't care.

I'm just pointing out the bs and hypocrisy.

You must care at least a little bit about the whores right? You're the one who brought it up out of nowhere. These forums have always been rife with people saying they definitely don't care about something, but they still really want to talk about it for some reason.

Not sure what you're talking about me draining scorers using tourney bots years back, I made my first tourney bot ever last month, and never had access to any at all back in the day so couldn't have been me.

You claim to be creating whores for new players yet today you declanned them all when I attacked them

Like 10 years playing the game 14 hours a day and you still think of yourself as a new player? Wild :p

why do you guys cry and moan at everything? you won last month congratulations btw.. but move on its just a game...

Like 10 years playing the game 14 hours a day and you still think of yourself as a new player? Wild :p

By this logic everyone should declan any whores you use since you do the exact same thing lol.

Regardless though, maybe both Fish and Zach need to sweat a little less and spend a little more time doing other things per day. I mean, you guys spend way too much time on the game. I think the toxic attitude both of you have against each other/each clan spawn from the fact that you guys spend just way too much time on the game arguing against each other and messing with one another. Maybe take some time and work on a better playing schedule that doesn't border on overtime for a full time job (like what, 60+ hours a week or something you guys?) :P It might give you guys some more perspective than trying to murder one another all the time.

Like 10 years playing the game 14 hours a day and you still think of yourself as a new player?

This shows how completely deluded you are, I have been back playing since October after not playing for 2 years and nowhere near 14 hours a day to start, I don't consider myself a new player but how can a new player attack your whores if you declan? I mean this conversation has now gone into full retard which I guess should be expected with you.

Why would I care about whores? If I want more whores I will clan them and if I dont I will declan, it wasn't brought up out of nowhere it was to show how full of shit you are lol.

To Zal I'm not trying to murder anyone, I dont make posts trying to shame people or cry about anything. I'm here to play the game because I enjoy it.

too much time on the game arguing

This sums up my thoughts. I've stopped being as talkative because it started getting tiring.

Juv, the forums are optional, if you don't want to see people talking about the game on the place dedicated to people talking about the game, no need to open them. I don't think Esv ever intends to "cry and moan" when he makes these threads for what its worth, he genuinely likes discussing the game in kind of a meta fashion (instead of scoring!).

Zal, I don't disagree and I think its what kinda inspired this thread. We had a nice chill month which is why Esv made the thread, but a peaceful month must have spurred Zac on to start messing with people. There was no benefit to him, he just didn't like losing the clan race/immediately losing their new monthly record/losing the tournament he spent the month preparing for so he had to lash out (admittedly fairly insignificantly). 22,222,221 > 22,222,222 anyway, kinda poetic description of finally getting the number 1 spot after lots of 2's.

As for the 10 years thing Zac, it was obviously just a bit of fun based on how you worded it that implied you're a new player. I thought the ":p" made it pretty obvious but I can make it more explicit if you need jokes explicitly spelling out in future? (this is just teasing, you don't need to take it seriously).

why do you guys cry and moan at everything?

I prefer to try first the conversation way than start right away attacking and messing with who messes with my clan. But trying to argue with Zach is pointless. Have I shamed you on the forum? Well, don't give me reasons to do that.

About sharing private bmails, am I a lawyer or a priest so it's wrong that I disclose private messages? I just thought it was relevant since you got upset that we declanned our whores following your strategy. You said having so much whores was boring, we are just making you happy no? About new players, I don't see any playing this month so far, so what's the point of having whores clanned when we aren't going ftw?

kinda poetic description of finally getting the number 1 spot after lots of 2's

When I first saw it yesterday I immediately went to the clans page hoping the number of months lined up with the amount of 2's, I was disappointed. That would actually have been even cooler.

I don't think Esv ever intends to "cry and moan" when he makes these threads for what its worth, he genuinely likes discussing the game in kind of a meta fashion (instead of scoring!).

Yes, after enjoying some peaceful time I made this thread to highlight that I was much more happy during the truce than the period before our attack. Immediately after it, Zach messed with our scoring (it's not that important I know) and declanned the Cr bots that I clanned for the 2nd time I believe. Those bots are owned by Lyrad, is Lyrad on Apex? No, so just use them to windump, nothing else.

And then I ended my 2nd post trying to open up a discussion about the toxicity and the hostile environment which nobody has commented much. Ofc Zach got upset, because nobody can't say negative things about him, it's too much for his ego to stand for (I guess the right expression is that he has a soft skin?). Anyway, now the most probable scenario is that Zach will retaliate somehow. I was thinking to build some low level tourneys again but it doesn't worth it, I'm pretty sure they would be leveled right away. Let's see how much time it will take until my only lvl 30 tourney (Neji) gets leveled.

When I first saw it yesterday I immediately went to the clans page hoping the number of months lined up with the amount of 2's, I was disappointed. That would actually have been even cooler.

Yeah that would be mind blowing haha

Of course Mr "Top Clan" would have liked us to come 2nd for a little while longer...

Why is it such a surprise that I don't like you saying stuff about me when a lot of it isn't true, I'm entitled to defend myself.

If lyrad wants cr's clanned then so be it but they aren't yours and last I checked Lyrad didn't play or care about the game, just like neps isn't yours but you enter it in the tourney on your side when Benny was an Atreides member, we have access why can't we enter it to Apex?

Anyway it's all irrelevant I'm not going to retaliate to anything unless you start it as always, just try to stop talking about me and let me play.

he just didn't like losing the clan race/immediately losing their new monthly record/losing the tournament he spent the month preparing for

His answer will be he doesn't care, but I also think it was too many losses to him to stand. In his position, I would be pretty mad and frustrated. It was so satisfying to beat Apex record although I still can't believe we had this potential. I'm sorry you just enjoyed the title of strongest clan for 1 month (ofc I don't sorry but I didn't know how to write it in another way, my English is pretty bad).

I'm just firing on my own feet because what I'm doing is to just motivate Apex to take that record back lol

when a lot of it isn't true

What exactly isn't true from what I've said about you? I will apologize if I did it.

This is a public forum, miscellaneous btw, I can speak about whatever I want. I didn't insult you and I think I did nothing against the rules that deserves moderation. If you don't like that people talk about you (which obviously isn't true, otherwise you wouldn't do what you do), stay quiet like other players do.

I might be wrong but have Lyrad or Benny gave you access to their stuff? Or it was some former escapism member that shared the PWS with you? Because both Lyrad and Benny trusted in me to the point of sharing their stuff.

For example, I believe juvO has access to blowtorch because I gave him the pw when he was in Escapism. It wasn't Benny, so why does he use his dumpers? At least Fishwick, who used Benny's dumpers last month, got the passwords directly from Benny... So the Cr bots aren't mine but me,myriad and rene were the first people to have access to them, that must mean something.

Maybe I expressed this wrong, because it seems I'm saying people shouldn't use those bots without original owner permission. I don't have any problem that they continue to use them if they got access. What I didn't like was you declanning Cr bots. Regarding neps, I think it makes much more sense that we use him than Apex.

I don't know how to resolve conflicts with Zach, I accept any advice. Normally it goes like this:

There is a conflict > I try the diplomatic way and it never works > conflict continues escalating eventually exploding in some big attack

If two persons in a simple text game can't reach a solution, imagine two countries... I was always amazed how bots4 represents real world. It's impossible to end war.

Ladies, you're both pretty and have the same massive sized cocks.

Anyone else?

Ya but if it’s sucked souly to help him feel better that has to count for somthing right? Like being compassionate and shit. I mean I know if I’m feeling down getting a blowjob would really help lift my spirits. Isn’t that what friends are for?

Zach shows signs of withdrawal symptoms by being aggressive towards users who discuss the topic in a polite tone. Maybe he should suck a dick or two to calm down.

Before I leave, I'll just say hi to my friend Luthrin - what a genius of kindness.

when a lot of it isn't true

I'm still waiting, so I can apologize for telling something that isn't true.

Well first I don't need to reply so you could be waiting forever. You made it seem as if I just randomly threatened you which isn't true and said there was no need when Fish did it first, I was basically just telling him we are prepared for anything like that. Then you seem to know everything I care and don't care about or that I'm complaining about whores being declanned amongst other things which isn't true.

Anyway like I said it's all pointless I'm not going to level or attack you we can just leave this now there is no need to escalate things or keep talking about it.

Agreed, let's move on.

Let's. :)

Here's an idea: don't try to appease assholes.
If someone starts handing out shit, throw it back in their face.
Maybe add a little of your own for good measure.
At the end of the day a bit of conflict is good for the game.