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This is a good one!

Next month, Tarnished is kinda scheduled for a month off.

Esv jokingly mentioned giving Mount Wario a win at some point in the future

Well... what if you actually tried to do it?

Hear me out. It's no fun to just score there instead and determine the winner and not have a proper race. No one else is competing with you next month if you're Lusitania (which... you probably are - though I guess not literal everyone else is).

Compete with yourselves.

Have a fantasy draft or whatever and a legit competition for the month.

Mount Wario versus Lusitania.

Try and make it as even as possible and have some fun with it.

Why the heck not, right?

Another idea that is pure freaking fire, imo.

Seriously, I'm just... like, some kinda genius or something.

You're welcome.

To put it bluntly, this idea is not just bad—it’s a complete waste of time. The sheer audacity of suggesting something so fundamentally pointless is almost impressive in its own way, but that doesn’t make it any less ridiculous. Let’s break this down piece by piece to fully appreciate why this suggestion deserves nothing but outright dismissal.

First, the premise is flawed from the start. The entire point of competition is to have real stakes, real opposition, and real incentive to win. Creating an artificial rivalry out of thin air just for the sake of "doing something" is nothing more than an exercise in self-indulgence. It’s like setting up a fake obstacle course in your backyard and pretending you’re competing in the Olympics. Nobody else cares, and the result means absolutely nothing.

Second, the execution would be equally pointless. A “fantasy draft” for a non-existent rivalry? Who exactly is this supposed to impress? The idea that people should go out of their way to fabricate a contest, just to make it "as even as possible," is the kind of mental gymnastics that nobody asked for. If people wanted an actual competition, they would just participate in a real one instead of manufacturing a fake one and pretending it matters.

Third, and most importantly, this idea completely misunderstands the fundamental concept of fun. Fun isn’t something you force into existence by artificially constructing a scenario where none naturally exists. It’s something that happens organically when there’s genuine excitement, investment, and stakes. Trying to force excitement where there is none isn’t just futile—it’s outright embarrassing.

So, to answer your question: No. Absolutely not. There is zero chance of this happening, and I won’t entertain it for even a second longer. Find something better to do with your time, because this is as dead-on-arrival as ideas get.

Is this a joke?

Like... you know normal people play games against their friends all the time, right?

You aren't even remotely familiar with playing 1v1 against a friend in basketball or something?

Never been in a fantasy football league? Play chess against somebody?

How did you type all that crap and think it made any sense whatsoever?

Ah, Mal. I can always count on you to rush in, chest puffed out, ready to deliver a stunningly bad take with the confidence of someone who has never once questioned their own brilliance. It’s genuinely fascinating. You read a response that carefully explained why this idea is completely hollow, and your big counterargument is… people play games sometimes. Amazing. Truly revolutionary insight. You must be exhausted from carrying all that intellectual weight.

But since you clearly need this spelled out in crayon, let’s go through your painfully weak comparisons one by one.

"You know normal people play games against their friends all the time, right?"

Yes, and you know what those games have? Real competition. Real stakes. Real engagement. When two friends play basketball, they’re testing their skills. When people join a fantasy football league, they’re managing real teams with real stats, competing with others who are actually invested. You are comparing organic, meaningful competition to a forced, fabricated scenario where people are supposed to pretend to care about an outcome that means nothing. That’s not the same thing, and the fact that you thought it was is downright embarrassing.

"You aren't even remotely familiar with playing 1v1 against a friend in basketball or something?"

Yes, I am. And again, that’s a real contest. Two players, actually trying to win, without someone needing to manufacture a fake rivalry to make it feel important. The idea that this comparison makes sense to you is honestly concerning. Did you think this was some kind of mic-drop moment? Because I promise you, it wasn’t.

"Never been in a fantasy football league? Play chess against somebody?"

Yes. And both of those involve actual competition, strategy, and engagement. Nobody has to force them to matter. A fantasy football league is fun because people choose to participate based on real-life games. Chess is a legitimate test of skill between two players who actually care about the result. Meanwhile, what you’re proposing is a pretend contest where people are manufacturing stakes that don’t exist just to fill time. If that still isn’t clicking for you, I’m afraid there’s no helping you.

"How did you type all that crap and think it made any sense whatsoever?"

Oh, the irony. You, of all people, asking how I wrote something and thought it made sense? After proudly presenting this trainwreck of a response like it was some kind of intellectual flex? That’s rich.

Here’s the harsh reality: You completely failed to engage with any actual point I made. Instead, you cobbled together the most painfully shallow argument possible and acted like you cracked some kind of code. But instead of exposing some grand flaw, all you did was prove that you don’t understand the difference between real, meaningful competition and making up an excuse to pretend something matters.

So here’s my advice: Before you hit “send” on your next attempt at a rebuttal, take a deep breath, reread what’s actually being said, and ask yourself if you’re about to embarrass yourself again.

Think of a family gathering where you all play volleyball or something (that tended to be what my family did).

Same freaking thing.

Two teams compete against each other.

It's fun. Both teams try to win.

Easy. Simple. Done.

If you don't actually want to then say that. Jesus, don't make up ridiculous nonsense about how it just couldn't even work - that's just completely asinine.

Your family doesn't want to play charades, I get it. Your lack of desire to have such a competition is very different from playing charades being some kinda impossibility...

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You people are so uninterested in competition that you'd rather gaslight yourselves into believing "friendly competitions" don't even exist than actually consider an idea of competing.

You don't wanna play football with your friends? Fine. Whatever. You don't have to make up completely weird excuses.

Very shit idea, I was actually joking about your rebrand/renovation last night in discord and mentioned the bots 2025 draft, look at the clan rankings you are being competetive if you just focus and stop whining in the forum you could win, hope you don't though lol.

So... we moved on from pretending the idea somehow couldn't even work or whatever?

Like, I don't even mind the idea that you people would be constantly trying to gaslight me, but I legit think you're constantly trying to gaslight yourselves.

The thing here is: this idea actually checks all the boxes for what you people had been saying you were interested in...

Figure your crap out, imo.

For somebody who is against having/joining only one or two big clans, and advocates new clan startups, it's odd to see you so enthralled with rekindling and rebranding one of them while also trying to spur some kind of extra activity within the other.

Also you had one person humor your analogy, you speak as if the conglomerate up above sent a representative to give you a general consensus.

Your clans messaging has been quite consistent in all my time back.

As you hinted at there... I've spent quite a lot of time on the issue of competition in this game. Hardly my first rodeo, pal.

Well you go ahead and keep treating individuals and their thoughts as one entity based on their clan affiliation then, that's a great way to have constructive discourse on an issue you've invested a lot of time on.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Also, you know the weirdest part?

Clans actually aren't the most important thing. I've always been fully aware.

I've actually never treated them as such. The game itself is "the greater good."

I genuinely think most people tend to operate on the very basic level of pure self-interest...

I have no misconceptions anyone's going to take this idea seriously. But, you know what? It'd be something. It'd be some kinda interesting. It'd be... better than the nothing that is gonna occur...

What are you offering again?

What would be YOUR idea?

Yeah.

What am I offering, what would be my idea? For what? I can only assume this is about what you're calling "the issue of competition in this game". To which I've not given you my opinion of, so let me share it. I don't care. I've never had an issue with the status quo of the game, and certainly not enough to feel compelled to think up of ideas to solve something I don't personally identify as a problem. But again, you just assume I have the same thoughts as others in the clan I've been in for 2 weeks.

But hey let's take a look in the rear-view for fun.. Just before November 2023 I message some people (namely Fish and Sam) to see if there's some interest in scoring, give Apex a run for their money. Look at that, most competitive month in 3+ years. Oh and what's even more funny here is that I was scoring against my friends that I helped convince to score! (bit ironic when looking at your comment to Lomu about playing games against friends) But there was actually something at stake here that some people cared about, the win streak for Apex that was only 2 months away from reaching 2 years.

The month after that Esv made Lusitania and we basically had an entire year of competition with some back and forth with several records being broken.

Or better yet, we can go all the way back to 2015 when I left Eternal while it was still winning the vast majority of months for the previous year so I could score with Escapism instead. I've only cared about playing the game with people I enjoy being around.

So to answer your question, I don't need ideas. I simply do.

Awesome stuff, dude!

I have a different idea.

Why does Wario have his own mountain? Like I mean, he owns that thing! But why? Guy's so fat he'd just fall down and turn into a giant snowball and go flying off the mountain all Looney Tunes style.

Maybe we could have a Mario Kart tournament next month and see who wins. That'd be fun. Too bad I don't have a Nintendo Switch. I could play some Sonic Racing though.

Oh and what's even more funny here is that I was scoring against my friends that I helped convince to score! (bit ironic...)

I'm still mad about this

Hey we still ended up in the same place

Yes. Everything is back to being right in the world.

I'm starting to think everyone on this game loves each other. And that's cute as heck.

Btw, if you decide to come back to this thread at all LOMU, is Mount Wario ever going to go for 1st again? I'm just wondering. A simple yes/no/maybe/not saying would be fine too.

If Mount Wario goes for 1st again, it’ll be because we earned it—through real effort, real stakes, and real competition. Not because we humored some absurd, artificial rivalry that exists solely in your head. You can keep trying to frame this as “better than nothing,” but here’s the reality: meaningless distractions don’t build legacy, don’t prove skill, and sure as hell don’t define champions. So no, we’re not about to waste our time on a manufactured spectacle just to entertain your boredom.

And honestly, the way you keep pushing this nonsense reminds me of the kind of person who gathers their whole family around on Christmas, makes a big dramatic speech, and then just declares, “I hate you all.” No self-awareness, no understanding of the situation, just an overwhelming need to say something—even if it’s pointless, unnecessary, and accomplishes absolutely nothing. That’s exactly what you’re doing here. You’re not contributing anything valuable, you’re just talking for the sake of talking, desperately trying to make this idea seem like it has merit when everyone else can see it for what it really is: a waste of time.

So if you're looking for a “simple answer” about Mount Wario? Here it is: we’ll aim for 1st when it matters, when it’s real, and when it actually means something. Unlike whatever this is supposed to be.

Hey, man... you were the guys insisting you didn't want to win every month and stating that you might wanna throw a win at Mount Wario.

Seems weird that now you're acting like this is all something I would be trying to force you to do or whatever.

I kinda just thought if you meant what you were saying at all then next month would be a good month for ya to do all that and you should totally make those plans.

Wasn't really my idea even, tbh.

My mistake for listening to words you people were saying, I guess?

Your mistake wasn’t “listening to words we said.” Your mistake was twisting them into a delusional fantasy, forcing it down everyone’s throat, and then acting shocked when nobody wanted anything to do with it. You took a passing comment and turned it into some grand, self-important crusade—except no one else was marching with you. The reality is, you weren’t looking for competition. You were looking for validation. You wanted people to play along with your little manufactured drama so you could pretend it was something meaningful, but the second that failed, you flipped the script, playing dumb and acting like you were just innocently following what others said. That level of dishonesty is almost impressive, but it’s still pathetic.

Next time, instead of desperately trying to create a spectacle that no one asked for, maybe focus on something that actually matters. Because right now, the only thing you’re competing for is how quickly you can embarrass yourself.

That said, the door is always open if you actually want to step up and engage in real competition—one where victories are earned through skill and effort, not forced through hollow theatrics. Focus on something that people can actually respect—a real, fair challenge where victory is earned, not gifted. If you’re serious about that, great—step up. But if all you want is to keep spinning nonsense, don’t be surprised when no one takes you seriously.

Wait... is this you "not taking me seriously" right now?

You seem... REALLY serious.

So... why so serious?

Hey LOMU, it was me, Zal that was asking the question, not Mal although you seem to have us mixed up. The only other thing I said was to have a Mario kart party. This was all mostly Mal's idea, I was just asking if you wanted to go for 1st again and that's it. So thanks for the answer :) I'll leave you alone now ^_^

Btw, I think this might just be Mal's way of just saying "You can have March if you want". And even though I also like writing 50 paragraphs per reply I think this all is a bit overdramatic. And that's coming from me: the Drama King.

For full disclosure — everything I wrote here was generated by ChatGPT. Whether or not it reflects any of my actual opinions is another story ;)

I swear if people keep using ChatGPT on these forums and fighting by autoclicking we may as well be actual robots.

I've always felt like a robot. Kinda even miss my list of canned responses and insults ("blueberry #$!#tart" being my favorite). But vast majority of my posting history was always "on autopilot."

And... I didn't tend to feel like I was an exception there. I never had any doubt that while me and Jans were in some flame war spewing complete hatred towards each other that he was joking around with some random clanmate at same time I was chatting with fnix about stupid stuff.

The game definitely did used to be different though. Doesn't feel like that "behind the scenes" game is really alive anymore. An overabundance of clans and clan merging and literal diplomacy feature of warring clans and such were probably pivotal for creation of that old "game within a game" thing.

I personally miss begging for wh0re clans to war with but also owned by people that would never let you have one lol. It was like a mountain to climb into their personal friends list.

But yeah, the back and forth in this game is pretty boring in comparison to bots2.

For full disclosure — everything I wrote here was generated by ChatGPT. Whether or not it reflects any of my actual opinions is another story ;)

I'm not using AI.

This idea is awful

Well, if you all hate this idea... then why the heck did you spend so much energy insisting this was the kinda thing you were interested in and calling me an idiot for saying that was just a bunch of BS?

Get your story straight and figure your crap out, imo. Jeez.

This idea is really just saying you have a great chance to prove me wrong and prove all that BS as not being BS.

But, yeah... this is what I thought the response would be.

This thread has ran its course guys..lmao