suggestions

Clan rankings should include NC members for Total Energy and Total Plats

Eternal still be on top =) even more so since small neps is a nc xD

i like how you made this about eternal's accomplishments and not your lack there of george ;)

cause they been around for awhile and i just joined? get mad bro

lol good job downplaying your accomplishments again and just fyi, just cause you use the term bro and mad together doesn't actually make people mad

downplaying? all i did was stae facts. why you so mad?

This was the only thread I could find regarding it, but I don't think Ender will change his view unless some new benefit is derived from changing the current state http://bots4.net/forum/4/2718

and that has to do with you coming at me with "downplaying myself" how? i dont know why you are trying to come at me about downplaying. the most you ever did a month was 280k.

To clarify the most I ever did was 480,661 with a single dumper and 0 buffs for the entire month.

i just went with your highest placing of 9th and saw that at 280k. i dont dump, never have, never will.

i dont use trophy points, never have, never will.

too busy dumping thats why. i use very little points. and even without points i would out score you

lol fyi, i only own only a single bot that is in range to attack my main and that bot isn't in a clan atm and hasn't been logged in for 227 days. The only reason you could outscore me without dumpers and trophy points is the fact that you have tons of low level energy available.

lol. you want me to come up to your lvl and smack your bot around for energy? i can do that

Go for it, I need someone to help me get my 100k losses plat

Thanks for digging up that thread, shoyuken. I knew I'd addressed this at some point.

My stance hasn't really changed. My gut reaction to this particular thread was no, but I can really see the arguments both ways. I guess for now, unless there's a really compelling reason to switch it to show energy/plats for NCs too (or if I have a change of heart), I'm inclined to leave things as they are.

What about a 100 [15], where 100 is the plats for the members and 15 is the plats of the N/C ?

Since, ya know, I came up with the [x] anyways in the very beginning :)

Eternal still be on top =) even more so since small neps is a nc xD

I doubt small neps would help in anyway Eternal. However, little neps would help alot.

Btw, I agree with the OP suggestion. When I click energy clan in clan's page, I want to see the real total energy of the clan, not the total energy of the 20 bots competing in that month... For me that doesnt make sense.

I have to agree with Es on this one. Total Energy and total platinum's should show an entire body of work, not just the 20 players that are playing for that month. I don't see why you don't agree on that on Ender. Monthly energy shows the 20 bots that are playing for the given month, total energy shows the total energy gained throughout the clans existence. Why not allow a clan to show off it's history? That was one of the coolest parts about bots 2 (when Rapture finally passed Immortalis in total energy)

If we're talking about adding the entire clan's history, the following should included as well: total trains, wins, losses, time spent playing, and experience.

No, that's never been included in clan rankings. Didn't you play bots2?

I wasn't referring to bots2. In terms of representing a clan, the only actual number that is useful to a clan would be it's total energy. Total platinums is an additional number that shows the achievements of the clan members. It is not required to be part of a clan to earn plats, but it is still show as a 'clan stat'. So if Ender does decide to revise the clan stats, why not add in a few extra numbers that may make things more interesting. (I.e. most active clan or the highest level clan)

Average level would be nice, bots2 had that as well.

He should revise it though, and it wouldn't take long.

ffs we arnt playing bots2 now its bots4 and ender has changed everything.. I agree with shoy if one stats gonna include everybody eveything does

All those can't fit, and would look sort of stupid, unless you had a different page for them. My thinking was only two rows that already exist would get updated, so it doesn't make the table ugly.

I was thinking about the table and yeah it wouldn't all fit. An alternative could be Ender just running a query once a month and just including it in the announcement at the beginning of each month.

(i.e. something like the table in here: http://bots4.net/forum/8/3942 , but grouped by clans)

A separate page could work as well, something like maybe a "clan leaderboard"