As Ender has stated time and again, Platinums are meant to be a testament to a player/clan's veteran status. However, they are currently not included in the Platinum total displayed on the clan page.
Thus, a clan that has won twenty months in a row currently on vacation (which is one of the things NC status is probably going to be used for) would not show up as veteran at all. Doesn't make sense. You don't stop being a veteran just because you took a month off.
Of course, now, three months into the game, everyone is pretty much active, people who were active at the start of the game are still active now. But a year or two down the road, there will be people who have won multiple months that will sit at NC status for months at a time. They will still be veterans, so when that time comes they should be honoured as such.
So yeah. ALL members' platinum trophies should be displayed on the clan page's platinum count. Platinums do not affect clan rankings, so there is no implication for gameplay or clan races other than being able to see at a glance truly how veteran a clan is.
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Neps and I had a long discussion about this in chat.
Basically, I disagree. I think showing all platinums decreases the value of it's number on the ranking page. I think showing only the total number of platinums for the 20 active members gives anyone viewing the ranking page has more value than showing the number for every member in the clan. A clan with 60-70 members most likely is going to show more platinums then a clan with 20-30 members. See where I'm going with this?
I am not against showing the total active and inactive platinums on the clan page, though. I just think it's silly showing inactive members platinums.
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Why would a clan that's on vacation be using lots of NC spots? It is more taxing to the treasury and there's no need to shuffle bots around if the clan isn't aiming for more active scorers, right?
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Platinums aren't easy to come by you know. Sure, go ahead, get 60 bots (an extreme example) with Open Beta and 100.0 ratio. That still amounts to only 120 "fake" platinums. The clan tax will be insane.
Every addtional 5 NC bots doubles the clan's daily tax. Each addtional NC bot decreases the maximum days of tax that can be saved in your treasury by 1
Quite a massive burden just to display a "fake" high total, don't you think?
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Actually, why not do a whole new category just for NC Plats?
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Show both, just separate the competitors and the NC. Just because one is in NC doesn't mean they are inactive - for example they could just be levelers, but they are still apart of the clan.
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Why would a clan that's on vacation be using lots of NC spots?
By "on vacation" I mean certain veteran players are not scoring for the month. That doesn't mean others won't take their place for the month. Of course, the clan will want to go to war with all 20 active slots filled, so veterans will have to move over for the meantime.
They could also be working on their bot, i.e. levelling, etc.
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On that same note, training bots will most likely be NCs if they don't want to take up slots for the clan's scorers. Does that take away their "veteran status?"
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I agree that it needs to be shown in some way, I am not sure which idea I like tho.
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What about how the members are shown
22 [20+2]
Why not do that with platinums?
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That might mess up the spacing on the clan page, iirc that is already at a premium.
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Actually, there's plenty of space for that. Check any clan page and you'll see. Good idea.
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Good bump, neps.
Seems like we all agree that 20+X is the best way to show platinums.
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We still have to see if Ender agrees though. This isn't a democracy.
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THIS MUST BE A DEMOCRACY - ENDER IS DENYING MY FREEDOMS.
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You're free to suggest things ;)
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YOU MEAN SUGGEST THINGS IN A CONSTRUCTIVE FASHION AND ACT MATURE!?
NEVER!
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Bump. I still like the xx+x
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I'm unsure if it's due to his lack of activity but Ender has told me on numerous occasions he doesn't post in every thread. I was informed that if he post he feels strongly one way, either for or against it, but when it comes to suggestions he tends to not post if he doesn't like the idea much.
Off that topic and on to the thread topic. I agree I would like to see the progress being made by the NCs going towards the total count in some manner and the XX+XX is a great way to do so.
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I'm sure he just feels like he gave the job of forum monitoring to his mods and doesn't feel the need to post as much. Doesn't mean I don't miss him and his eyebrows...
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I don't know, I flip-flop on this suggestion. At first I liked it, but I'm currently leaning in the direction of leaving it as it is. We'll see how I feel next week. :)
Btw, I still at least skim every thread, but this forum is quite active so it can be difficult to keep up with everything.
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but this forum is full of spam so...
*fixed
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