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It's everywhere, contaminating everything. It pisses me off.

I would like to use this thread to raise my middle finger in a collective FUCK YOU to the following:

ignorant liberals (not all liberals) who cannot admit that most of their beliefs are rooted in envy/hate of rich people

so called "progressives" who rape morality with their fucked up interpretation of the concept of "tolerance" and "political correctness"

liberals who are complete and utter commies but cannot admit it.

Fuck you.

Feeling better now?

Much better. :)

I dont understand how "liberal" can be used as a negative label. Use something more descriptive. Hippies, bums, commies

Yes, iberal is actually a positive word, like its root word, of course, but so many people who are full of shit slap that label on, for me, so many, in fact, that the word has evolved and taken on a lot of different meanings.

I guess I hate commies.

Hate is such a strong word...

Can't we all just get along hugs

=D

+1 to this thread. Good rant neps

My envy/hate is rooted in people that use Paypal. Damn rich peoples that can go out and online shop and buy stars and whatnot....my money ain't no good unless its electronically raped first...grrr...

Good rant though Neps =D

So, what classifies as communism? Free health care? Affordable education?

Some family in Yeehaw TN didn't pay the annual firefighters fee, and they just sat there watching the house burn down. That's some conservative republican bullshit right there :)

Call me a commie, but i kinda like not having to worry about insanely high doctor bills, student loans, or even the very basic protection of a fire brigade.

That's something else Jans, I consider access to services like these the right of every citizen. What I am against is what I consider to be going too far: more and more progressive tax.

But if not overtaxing the rich, then where will the government get money, others will ask. Well, who the fuck says the rich OWE the rest of the people? I am not rich, but I certainly do not feel that is fair to force rich people to pay for more and more services for the rest of society.

If the government cannot afford to pay for a socialized service, then perhaps it shouldn't be considering it. The solution would be to NOT implement it, not find some way to squeeze more tax money out of the well off in order to more fully coddle the poor.

Well Jans, that is what happens when you live out of the range of the city fire dept and don't pay the yearly 75$ Just like home insurance, you hope you don't need, but you sure as hell keep it paid up just in case.

i'm just kind of surprised that there wasn't a volunteer fire dept, with the number of crank cookers in Tennessee you would think everywhere would have a volunteer fire dept.

(I was raised in Tennessee, crank labs are EVERYWHERE around there anymore, main reason that I left.)

I guess that's the balancing act, what should and shouldnt be covered by society. Progressive tax does suck though (although regressive tax is truly retarded). Flat tax system ftw, seems like the fairest way to go.

Flat tax system ftw

+1. No one can complain, and if anyone will, it will mostly be those who have a false sense of entitlement to things that they think they deserve, those who think the state is their nanny, whose job is to spoon feed them, and the "they're rich, they should be forced to pay for our conveniences" people.

And legalize all drugs, and tax 'm.

that would cover half the taxes and kill half of the tax payers

rich people get money by exploiting cheap labor power, i find it only realistic that they need to pay more tax than people that work for them, and have less.

I hate people that boast with 10 new cars and 5 big houses, while people that work for them cant even feed their families. And tbh, thats the trademark of capitalism of today :S

and most of these people isnt rich because they are working hard, or are smart. They are rich because they give their workers minimal wage, and take the rest of profit to themselves. Or in worse case, drive a Ferrari while 150 workers in firm dont get paid in half a year...

I'm proud to be a liberal minded socialist ;)

If only communism could work, that would be even better :D

rich people get money by exploiting cheap labor power, i find it only realistic that they need to pay more tax than people that work for them, and have less. I hate people that boast with 10 new cars and 5 big houses, while people that work for them cant even feed their families. And tbh, thats the trademark of capitalism of today :S and most of these people isnt rich because they are working hard, or are smart. They are rich because they give their workers minimal wage, and take the rest of profit to themselves. Or in worse case, drive a Ferrari while 150 workers in firm dont get paid in half a year...

Yes, Number Two, these problems exist, but more taxation is NOT the answer.

And I find nothing wrong with giving people minimum wage. Business is business, and a job is a job. If a businessman provides ten thousand minimum wage jobs, how would his not doing so make it better for ten thousand people? Would they rather he NOT provide ten thousand jobs/cut down on employees/outsource to somewhere cheaper?

I have a few employees at my shop, I pay all but two of them minimum wage, and two of them (managers) receive a couple hundred above minimum wage + 5% of the shop's monthly net. I provide an apartment for them (they're mostly lads from the countryside come to the city to work) and their utility bills come out of the shop's funds. They have never complained.

Now if suddenly minimum wage was doubled, you know what I'd do? I'd fire almost half of them. Because I wouldn't be able to afford to pay all of them. They're all hardworking guys and I would hate to have to lose any of them, but business is business. I can either provide all of them with jobs at minimum wage, or provide a few of them with more than minimum wage. Plus there is the question of less of them to do the same amount of work, so now they'll all have to work more.

I agree that taxation on work should be reasonably low, then it wouldn't hurt the rich ones either. But, if they can afford all those cars and secondary houses and w/e, they can also afford to support them selves and should not be able to have access to all the benefits and help that society offers to the poor. I realize though that this might only make sense in a country that has almost as high taxes as Denmark (we pay like 50% of hour income in tax).

I'm proud to be a liberal minded socialist ;)

We all figured that out already from how you post.

Bah, i was all ready for an extremely one sided american republican point of view, but that's all you got? No deliverance :|

Sorry, I only read dragonrose's post because it was the shortest, was in a sorta of rush and didn't feel like reading.

Occupy!

I don't think they're against technology or the comforts of modern society...

Of course not, just against the corporations that make them available to them.

No they're not. But i can't be arsed to go into that :)

I am not really generalizing btw, it was just a funny picture that reminded me of a lot of many "activists" i knew back in college.

Oh i'm not saying they're not annoying, because they are :P

THROW IT ON THE GROUND!!

I'M AN ADULT!!!!

I DON'T NEED YOUR HANDOUTS!

I read this thread and laughed, typical of weak people to rant and complain and not actually do anything.

I still don't know the difference between a liberal and a conservative and a democrat and a republican. Also I don't know the difference between me, the low paid stoner or my boss, the rich meth smoking guy.

the pay check?