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No, I won't let you extort me.

If you wanted that bot then it was available to anyone and openly advertised in the marketplace. You didn't buy it though and I did. It's mine. Not yours. No amount of continued online threats, attacks, and general cyber-bullying would ever make me pay you anything ever. Not happening. I don't even remember exactly what the first instance of extortion demanded of me... but... yeah... NOTHING. I will never give you anything. What's mine is mine and you need to learn to settle for all that is yours and nothing more.

I honestly don't know what you're even thinking. Perhaps you've become so accustomed to using a hammer that you don't even have any other tools at your disposal. I've been extremely patient and unbelievably forgiving of the incessant attacks from your clan. Make no mistake, that wasn't meekness/weakness. I just genuinely believe there SHOULD be some amount of decency and some sorta social contract amongst the playerbase that allows for everyone to be allowed to play as they please - everyone benefits.

C'est la vie.

As your clan has insisted on escalating things to the point of literal extortion and have no respect whatsoever for anything short of completely asinine aggression, apparently... I'm very prepared to dance. Got my dance shoes on, baby!

I must say though... it kinda feels unfair. I know you really, really want to pretend you're holding all the cards and everything... but I legit have NO IDEA what leverage your clan could possibly think they have to try and harm me in the least.

What bots do you think you can attack to hurt me? What is your plan? My clanmates? I still am not sure what the founder's name even is - seems hella cool (but we're in the courting phase at best). George? That's a transactional relationship atm and, if anything, that dude should be indebted to me. I don't owe anyone in this game anything right now. MY BOTS? I'm the least sentimental person around - I'm very certain that's not gonna bother me. Meanwhile, you've made it abundantly clear how upset you will be by simply leveling a single bot.

This... really isn't even gonna be very fair. Just remember: you've insisted on this.

Luckily for you, I have some amount of principles and ethics and I won't be trying to steal all your money/bots when you finally figure out how stupid this all was.

But I am not in a completely forgiving mood and I very much will be acting in kind (minus the extortion part) from this point onward... errr... well, eventually. Eventually. I'm not in a hurry. There's no rush. And, again, it's not like there's actually anything you can even do to me that I care about.

Must admit, I really didn't predict your clan to be so dedicated to trying to intimidate and harass people though. I'm normally pretty good at predicting things. Was pretty surprised by such extreme escalations. I'm rooting for you to somehow surprise me again - hurt me. Surprise me. Let's see there was some kinda actual plan on your end and not just an over-reliance on nothing more than stupidly ignorant bullying.

Cheers,
Mal

As I am in Lusitania, your post is also directed to me. And you also attacked me with a tourney. So you got beef with me obviously. But I really have no clue what this is about. Extorting you? No clue. So you are telling things that everybody is Lusi knows about, i dont. So if your beef is with someone is Lusi, please talk to them directly. Else, explain what is happening.

Oh, please... EVERY TIME it's the same tune and your clan hides in shadows and pretends to be completely ignorant. I'm tired of that game.

And I'm not remotely interested in enabling this new crime racket you all have going. It's just not happening.

It's simple: you've demanded I give you something I bought and own via threats, thinking I'd just cower and surrender my property to you... and that is NEVER HAPPENING.

I will not be extorted.

Mal, it is possible people honestly do not know what you are talking about.

Give the full story perhaps? But like this you are not getting anything resolved.

So you got beef with me obviously.

And, at this point, yes.

Your entire clan. Mind you, the few hits directed at you were really only supposed to be a message and warning that I COULD be partaking in these really stupid actions, myself... if I was so inclined. Never been my style before... but, at this point, it very much is, I guess.

Your threats and demands carry no weight over here, mates.

If you wanna continue trying to extort people? Well, you need to actually have some kinda leverage. Everyone knows that. Whatever you people doing is like watching Mr. Bean joining the Mafia.

And they know.

And that's my answer. That's all.

NO. My answer is "no."

I guess you're all just gonna have to follow-through on these threats now, eh?

Because... NO. Never. Not in a million years.

My stuff is mine. You can have it.

My stuff is mine. You can have it.

From an outside perspective, you are really not making sense

Lol, you are seeking drama by just warning every member in Lusi. Because, supposedly, someone does something that is offending you. I suppose this is about george being leveled? We have asked around on disc, but nobody in lusi is doing this or isn't coming forward. You just assume it is someone in Lusi. First find out who it is, then get back at that person. Why attacking a whole clan? Just because you think it is lusi? please. Maybe it is you, because you want more drama! Who knows...

Your threats and demands carry no weight over here, mates

Never threatened you and i'm not your mate. Always left you alone and do your thing.

Stop this bullshit and stop threatening me, ass.

From an outside perspective, you are really not making sense

By the logic of Mal, you are not an outsider. Because you are in the same clan as Mal. So you hate lusi and must seek revenge.

I'll catch everyone up as Mal likes talking in riddles.

• Mal levelled a tourney bot of mine, incorrectly thinking I'd wronged his clan member
• I asked him to refund me one for his mistake, so we didn't have to descend into drama and other clan members getting affected
• He said no he won't do that, and doesn't care if anything happens to his clan members
• He then posted the same thing here because he's melodramatic and needs your attention

Best to just ignore him, he wants a rivalry and is upset that Lusi don't see him as such.

I logged on briefly to score a few thousand energy, first time since the great battle of lore against the legends of Apex. Just a few days ago my bot was subject to an unprovoked attack. If you ask me with what little I know about the current environment, and from what I have read on this thread - Mal got his hands on some tourneys (probably from Zach) ((which was one of the tourneys that attacked me)) and is now shooting up the club of Lusitania, he don’t care! Everyone is gunna get it.

Thats my take.

By the logic of Mal, you are not an outsider. Because you are in the same clan as Mal. So you hate lusi and must seek revenge.

Dont tell Mal that my old Apex bot is pending at Lusitania then. He might hate me too then.

He already hates you for applying.

He said no he won't do that, and doesn't care if anything happens to his clan members

Man how he's changed his tune.

Feels like last year all over again, or was it 2, or both.. I don't even remember.

Caught in an infinite spiral

Of course Fish comes in here and tries to gaslight everyone.

Your terms were clear: you demand payment (and are using threats in order to try and receive them). I'm not paying you or anyone else. I'm not some mark you can hit up for favors via some idle threats and very pathetic attempts to intimidate me.

In the meantime, you've conveniently forgotten a pretty long list now of other grievances and attacks by pretending this is even just about the recent levelling of George and not the entire history of attacks made (most notably, probably, being the entirety obscene nature you all attacked George last month.

And, yes, I leveled a single bot of yours - but, you know what? I also sent a note and made no attempts whatsoever to pretend it wasn't me and I didn't belong to my actions.

Mal got his hands on some tourneys (probably from Zach) ((which was one of the tourneys that attacked me))

This is true I sold him them, now I feel like an illegal arms dealer lol. Not to stir the pot but somebody did attack George incognito a couple of weeks ago and people then make assumptions so it's not surprising really. Anyway don't mind me I will stay over here with my popcorn.

And someone keeps attacking me while hiding. I e tried to bmail them, I once got a reply saying they are doing this cause I scammed their friend. Curious to who I scammed, still waiting for a reply.

Hi everyone, this thread contains some strong accusations and heated discussion. I want to clarify a couple of important points regarding our community standards:

• In-game actions vs. player communication: Aggressive in-game strategies and rivalries are part of gameplay. However, the way we communicate about these on the forums must remain civil. Personal attacks and hostile language are not acceptable.

• Handling serious accusations: Publicly posting serious accusations (like "extortion" or "cyber-bullying") without presenting clear evidence for discussion can make threads unproductive and hostile very quickly. If you genuinely believe another player's communication or specific actions outside of normal gameplay mechanics constitute harassment or a significant rule violation, the appropriate channel is to report it directly to me via bmail with specific details and evidence. This allows for proper investigation rather than public trials.

This discussion needs to maintain a civil and constructive tone. If this thread continues to devolve into personal attacks or unproductive hostility, it will be locked. Let's focus on discussing issues respectfully.

I just want someone to stop hiding and come forward, own up to what you are doing. I have no issues with resolve but can't fix anything I didn't do

Sounds like I sadly missed all the late night drama.

George may not want attacked anymore... but I do.

You threatened me and insisted I "had to" give you that bot. Well... I'd like to see exactly how you plan on making me. I'm not kidding.

I will begin by leveling one more tournie bot chosen at random from a pool of bots Lusi registered for last tournament... probably in a few hours or something, when I care to actually be bothered.

And then I'm gonna keep doing stuff and keep doing stuff... until I just don't care any more.

I truly don't mind most all the verbal jabs and various insults or anything - never will, but I will not for one moment let anyone think I can be intimidated, especially to the degree that you think you can literally try and extort my property away from me.

TLDR: you made me an offer that I very much "could* refuse. So, now whatcha gonna try and do?

Ok

Wanna play a game?

Back to retirement due to the actions of someone exactly like luthrin of old. Ggs everyone

I'll never understand why one person attacks someone and the answer is for the other player to attack everyone in a clan rather than attack the person back. Mal levels fish tourneys and others tourneys, so why am I targeted? Just lvl his tournament bots back simple as that. Leave me out of your game of who is bigger.

Wait...Mal made someone quit but gave everyone else hell when the Valhalla guy said he was quitting again?

Man.

Oh the irony here is overwhelming.

Wait...Mal made someone quit but gave everyone else hell when the Valhalla guy said he was quitting again?

Fish is threatening him. I'm not threatening anyone.

I've literally done NOTHING yet since Fish started trying to extort me and everything else.

George is mad at me because he thinks I should just give Fish a bot... like paying him off ever made extortion stop and have the threats end.

Direct quote from Fish to George:

I'd leave now if you are gonna end up leaving when I drain you

See... he doesn't actually have the guts to follow-through with his threats to actually keep attacking me and anyone I might know at all... so he's now moved on to threatening everyone else with different threats and promises.

Again, when your only tool is a hammer...

No, Lusi, I WILL NOT GIVE YOU THAT BOT. It is mine, not yours.

Now, you made promises about attacking me until I give it to you... well, are you a man of your word or not? Because this is your head-start - I will be taking my turn and can't completely ignore this unbelievable effort to extort me and force me.to give a... bot I could make in about an hour, if I wanted...

You told me you wanted people to be afraid of you, bud. Show us what you got! All I've seen is a bunch of empty words and a ridiculous amount of nuthin' thus far.

Dude, you can't live in fear and let them intimidate you. That just isn't any way to live.

Besides, Fish's threats are just words. Words don't hurt, bud. Words are easy. He ain't got the grit to follow-through with most any of it or the shine to make those words carry any real weight.

Doesn't mean you go around provoking the animal in the cage. I think that's what you are missing here.

Well... I'm afraid I love to call bluffs. The dog is all woof, no bite.

It can try to look as scary as it wants, I ain't gonna be scurred.

Besides, I'm sorry, bud... but I REALLY don't like someone trying to intimidate ME.

Administrative note: I really want the forum to be a more welcoming space. I think game-related jabs have their place - they foster rivalry and this is, after all, a competitive online game. Hostile goading gets into the gray area though because their only purpose is to taunt, provoke, and instigate emotional, hostile responses from other players. This is where threads can become toxic and get derailed by personal feuds. It's exhausting for observers and intimidating for anyone who doesn't want to be part of the fight. New players or less confrontational veterans will see these threads and decide the forums aren't for them, so while I debated letting this thread continue, I think it's gone too far (I removed a couple posts that crossed the line / were completely unproductive) and it's time to be locked.

*click*

I don't remember what exactly was in my post but if you felt the need to remove it, I apologize if I crossed a line

He also forgot to lock it it seems. :D

You began by calling me "stupid" or something - looked possibly insulting... but I knew what you meant and that it wasn't intended to be a real personal insult. From Ender's perspective, seemed fair to want to remove the "insult," however. You're all gravy, baby.l

Was going to read through this thread but first line was enough. TLDR!!!

Whoops, *click* for real. :)