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Jessica Alba, not that there is much competition though...

that doesn't help him at all.

op, it depends first what build you are looking to make (str/dex/bal). str is the best in that range i believe, and obviously a freaked build is going to beat anything but then sort of a waste of effort since you have to just leave it to sit there doing fuck all for the rest of time.

you should check out the fight simulator to see which build is best more accurately but a decent starting place is conned evaps/souls/whiplashes/excals. those are ones i can think of excluding freaked bots.

freaked souls. all day ;)

a planning to build a str bot...=D

Level 130 soul harvesters (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php

                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Corpsemourn                  +12  +10   -6         900
Heraldic Head                 +2   +8   +3         395
Gloves of Mystery             +7   +4   -6   +4    190
Heraldic Feet                 +7  +14  -10         180
soul harvester      (85-275)
soul harvester      (85-275)
                             +28  +36  -19   +4   1665

STR :  420 =  392+28         Left-hand  : 442.0-1430.0
CON :   86 =   50+36         Right-hand : 442.0-1430.0
DEX :   85 =  104-19         HP         : 910
INT :   14 =   10 +4         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 81.6%

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this is one of my bots current build goal. it definitely isnt the strongest build that one can make but i like it considering i dont have the min int. lol but i love souls

That will get raped all day by anything else that is freaked or even conned.

130 souls = crap in bots4. Now 140 Souls = okay in bots4.

like i said, it may not be the strongest build, but its souls. the sooner the souls the better :D

and souls getting raped...the high dmg will make up for the low con. atleast imo.

Ordinarily yes, but in bots4 no it won't. Almost always a conned bot will beat a rushed higher damage bot. To a certain extent.

well if i really wanted to, id just freak it and it have 30+ more con than it has now. actually if i really wanted to, id put actual energy score armour on it instead the armour that i intended to use. lol a conned plasma or dex bot imo wouldnt stand a chance.

30 soul harvesters (x2) (Level 1ts/buildcalculator.php?l=130&s=392&c=60&d=94&i=10&b=111&h=66&g=42&f=47&h1=282&h2=282&sh=>Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/buildcalculator.php

                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Corpsemourn                  +12  +10   -6         900
Heraldic Head                 +2   +8   +3         395
Shade Armlet Gloves           +7   +3   +4   -9    175
Heraldic Feet                 +7  +14  -10         180
soul harvester      (85-275)
soul harvester      (85-275)
                             +28  +35   -9   -9   1650

STR : 420 = 392+28 Left-hand : 442.0-1430.0 CON : 95 = 60+35 Right-hand : 442.0-1430.0 DEX : 85 = 94 -9 HP : 1000 INT : 5 = 10 -9 Block : 5.00% Absorb : 81.24%

now take 20 redis to the str making it an overall 400 and adding the points to con. that adds 200 hp points.

this is the build if u actually plan on putting up a fight. like i said i dont. i just want souls. lol cause i love em. :P

There are better ways to freak than that. Redissing str to con is probably the least sustainable.

haha wow. ive had this discussion wayy too many times lol from what ive tested YESS it is lol. id love for you to make your build and me make mine lol then we'd see whos is trully better. haha but seriously, we all have our opinions. yess there is that battle test but you never really know unless you build it. kinda makes me wanna make a freaked souls bot. but itd be pointless. itd just sit at lvl 130 cause itd have no int and theres not enough targets to be used as a energy hoarder. lol

130 freaked blasters, my dear friends... It will eat your souls...

dont forget about whips either :)

I don't :)

Level 130 blaster mauls (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php

                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Black Hades                  +10   -8  +12  -10    850
Shade Armlet Helmet           +8   +4   +3  -11    272
Shade Armlet Gloves           +7   +3   +4   -9    175
Heraldic Feet                 +7  +14  -10         180
blaster maul        (60-335)
blaster maul        (60-335)
                             +32  +13   +9  -30   1477

STR :  390 =  358+32         Left-hand  : 294.0-1641.5
CON :   80 =   67+13         Right-hand : 294.0-1641.5
DEX :  130 =  121 +9         HP         : 850
INT :  5 =   10-30         Block      : 7.69%
                             Absorb     : 76.86%

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my money is on the souls... :P

Not sure about the best blaster build (SaiyanZ is better than me in this situation), but this would eat your souls:
http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php?l=130&s=342&c=80&d=124&i=10&b=109&h=69&g=42&f=47&h1=299&h2=299&sh=

Freak blasters properly and it will crush any freaked souls. Your opinion is you like souls. That is fine, if your opinion is souls are better then you are wrong.

lol your an ass. i love blasters too. but i just think that the soul build would beat the low con blaster build lol geez didnt think id get flamed for tryin to help attack out on a build. haha

attack: i prefer souls at this lvl. also whiplash mauls. but at this point in the game dont go for something with the min int. there arent enough targets to get fulfillment. lol now maybe once off builds his blaster build and the idiot above me builds whatever shit build he chooses (albania) then u can freak a lvl 130. ;)

My build would beat all of the above.

oh and mainors gotta build his whips :D

Freak them as much as you want, i'll beat them too.

whats your build??? if you dont mind me asking.

^fail skipper is fail

Learn to build a bot first bro. Blasters shit all over souls. Your 'freaked' souls is crap. Deal with it.

lol someone is upset :D im simply sparking debate and your getting all worked up. ive owned souls blasters dooms excals...i like them all lol so you saying that blasters with 'shit' all over my souls means absolutely nothing to me. i have no idea what u meant by saying skipper lol at this point im starting on both souls and blasters haha just for my pure enjoyment. haha thank you for inspiring me :P

Put it this way, i have the same absorb as your souls and more hp than your souls.

lol not telling me much but okay. not even the weapon haha but its no big deal. i love competition. eventhough itd be just you and i alba.

cwgarza... forget ordinary bots2 builds... freaked builds eat ANY perfect build at ANY level... Yes, souls were great in bots2 at lvl 135+. But not here...

lol just fought you with my 101 mega maul and i got you down to 10%.

it doesnt mean much but makes me feel good :D :P

im not building a nilla bot. im freaking it. itll have over 1200 con with the same 80%+ absorb lol i know this isnt bots2 haha all of my bots are freaked. none are nilla.

wtf "nilla" means? o_O

nilla=vanilla=regular=notfreaked.

Like I said, fail skipper is fail. 'Nuff said. Leave the bot building to people who know what they are doing. Kthxbai.

Cwgarza, unlike your freaked answerers where you levelled before your armors broke, utterly freaked STR to CON 130 souls would never make it to 131 in one piece.

Also, 130 souls is too rushed for BOTS4. We aren't fighting shitty one hit whores here. Even a non-freaked build with a decent amount of CON five to ten levels down could probably make energy off a bot like that.

To put to rest this 'debate'

Freaked blasters

http://edmazur.com/bots/old_calc.php?l=130&s=372&c=80&d=94&i=10&b=111&h=66&g=42&f=47&h1=299&h2=299

vs

Freaked souls

http://edmazur.com/bots/old_calc.php?l=130&s=372&c=125&d=49&i=10&b=111&h=66&g=42&f=47&h1=282&h2=282

Blasters win 65% of the time.

In the effort of completeness I altered the souls build so that it's dex wasn't so abysmally small.

Freaked blasters

vs

Freaked souls (less con, more dex)

http://edmazur.com/bots/old_calc.php?l=130&s=372&c=95&d=79&i=10&b=111&h=66&g=42&f=47&h1=282&h2=282#

Blasters still win 57% of the time.

tl:dr - Game over, thanks for playing.

thank you guys :) lol

Allo, it is possible to make a better blaster maul bot than that one. Also, whiplashes will beat them both.

I don't doubt it Saiyan, that was just a quick one I threw together to prove my point.

even whiplashes would beat souls.

oh i posted that in reply to half way up the thread, then read the last two comments which beat me to the same point :(

You won't be able to get a better blaster build than that one without levelling with 10 int.

allotrope, what when corpsemourn or herald head breaks, what to do then?

i have the same build pretty much on jessica, i can equip them all just have to have another set of armor to equip the corpse/her head.

Having few stars for stash it is easy. Best +str set gives you +50str (not counting copper soul, then it's 52), so 372+50=422, and that is enough to equip fresh new 420ish str armors.

You won't be able to get a better blaster build than that one without levelling with 10 int.

You could just rediss INT off gradually as you approached level target, just make sure you always have 35 redis and 5 to buy, practically the same as levelling on ten INT.

I'm just making an assumption, as that is the only reason I can think of you would need to level on 10 INT.

You won't be able to get a better blaster build than that one without levelling with 10 int.

Yes, you can.

@number, exactly what Off said. Provided you still have the armour you used to equip the stuff in the first place, you just put that back on. Equip your new Corpsemourn, Her head and you are good to go.

yes you are right. i dont know how, but i saw 360 not 400 str for the first time, so thought that dex is got by armors and str then just redissed into con

It's not a levelling with 10int btw... It's creeping.

maybe variable tourny categories might mix things up a bit, it might make a difference if your 130 bot gets into a cat from 130 to 145 or if it gets cat from 110 to 130...

so if levels could vary on a random basis, taking into acount that a category could hold 20 levels or so it might give more variable results also, cause super freaked build on 130 might still miss 15 levels if it just happens to have enough bad luck to end up on lowest level in that months tourny. It might still win tho, because of different ratios for different levels in cat, as it was in bots2. (assuming that stays the same)