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CygnusAeternus [69]
2011-10-25 21:59:37
[13 years, 31 days ago]
Level 69 conquerers axes (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Spirit Forge                  +6  +10              460
Stealskull                    -3   +4   +5   +7    150
Ghoulhide                     +5   +3   +5   -4     65
Blood Seeker                           +10          59
conquerers axe      (60-180)
conquerers axe      (60-180)
                              +8  +17  +20   +3    734

STR :  231 =  223 +8         Left-hand  : 198.6-595.8
CON :   41 =   24+17         Right-hand : 198.6-595.8
DEX :   75 =   55+20         HP         : 460
INT :   13 =   10 +3         Block      : 5.00%
                             Absorb     : 54.18%
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or if i can't, what would be a good road for me to go down? the only thing i won't do is up my health more than minimum :) makes it so i'm sure my guy is hitting as hard as he can


 
DEXYbot [32]
2011-10-25 22:20:49
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Not a bad build, but not a good one either... I have a level 53 that could compete with the build you just put up.


 
DEXYbot [32]
2011-10-25 22:21:50
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Scratch that. I mistook your conq axes for Ancients -.- Damn speed reading.


 
DarkNinjaMaster [31]
2011-10-25 22:31:53
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Is that your current build? What's it for if you don't mind? Because it's kinda, inbetween, not good for scoring and not the best for levelling either, so what are you trying to do with it?


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-25 23:41:35
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Lol @ these speed readers, didn't even figure out what OP was asking for (in the thread title?)

Here you go.

Level 71 brainbashers (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Raven Caw                     +6       +10         550
Holy Plate of Light Helmet    +8        +4  -10    205
Satans Claw                  +10        +5   -8     91
Gore Rider                    +7   -5   +7          87
brainbasher         (58-232)
brainbasher         (58-232)
                             +31   -5  +26  -18    933

STR :  259 =  228+31         Left-hand  : 208.2-832.9
CON :   22 =   27 -5         Right-hand : 208.2-832.9
DEX :   81 =   55+26         HP         : 270
INT :   5 =   10-18         Block      : 5.46%
                             Absorb     : 61.1%
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You could get it earlier but you have extra DEX.


 
Spawn [120]
2011-10-25 23:43:22
[13 years, 31 days ago]

use re-dis :)


 
DarkNinjaMaster [31]
2011-10-26 00:08:36
[13 years, 31 days ago]

didn't even figure out what OP was asking for

Hmm, I feel quite retarded now.


 
ReneDescartes [177]
2011-10-26 00:25:49
[13 years, 31 days ago]

It would be better to do this:

Level 72 answerers (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Raven Caw                     +6       +10         550
Valkyrie Wing                      -4  +12         170
Satans Claw                  +10        +5   -8     91
The Snappers                  -5   -5  +15          53
answerer           (102-204)
answerer           (102-204)
                             +11   -9  +42   -8    864

STR :  237 =  226+11         Left-hand  : 343.7-687.5
CON :   19 =   28 -9         Right-hand : 343.7-687.5
DEX :  102 =   60+42         HP         : 240
INT :    5 =   10 -8         Block      : 9.03%
                             Absorb     : 58.78%
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neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 01:44:14
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Not what OP ordered though.


 
ReneDescartes [177]
2011-10-26 02:30:00
[13 years, 31 days ago]

I don't see the harm in posting an alternative, especially when there's such an insignificant difference in the base stats of both builds. Try to think of it as somebody mentioning the fact that at 149 str you're welcome to use tyrant clubs but you can equip ancient axes if you like.


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 03:30:52
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Good point, I do that all the time. Sorry for the sarcastic tone. :/


 
Mainor II [168]
2011-10-26 04:22:49
[13 years, 31 days ago]

72 answerers? come on! Equalizers will eat that. Especially with the <20 base con... wtf!?


 
Mainor II [168]
2011-10-26 04:28:13
[13 years, 31 days ago]

oh and Rene, use either Blood bather to freak (you dont want 'bare' str if you can choose between str and dex), but rather still use Gore Rider... + 7 str and 7 dex.

And forget about the <20 con comment. I looked at the wrong side of the equation again >.<


 
Mainor II [168]
2011-10-26 04:30:32
[13 years, 31 days ago]

triple post for the win.

OP, do you know you can basically already get equalizers? And how much redis do you have? the builds Rene and Neps posted, require quite some points redistributed from your current build...


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 04:45:03
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Why? Add 5 STR, add 3 DEX. No redis necessary. And I think he's a levelling bot, with that low CON and INTed armors, so equals "eating" him should only figure as extra XP, if I read him right.


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 04:47:14
[13 years, 31 days ago]
Add 5 STR, add 3 DEX

*add 3 CON. Damn this unstandardized arrangement of stats. :/


 
Mainor II [168]
2011-10-26 04:53:31
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Urgl...

/mainor dies


 
ReneDescartes [177]
2011-10-26 05:10:41
[13 years, 31 days ago]
oh and Rene, use either Blood bather to freak (you dont want 'bare' str if you can choose between str and dex), but rather still use Gore Rider... + 7 str and 7 dex.

The armours I used in the build I posted are optimal to equip answerers as early as possible. As a result of the OP's stats, the best freaking set isn't obvious and as I have shown isn't necessarily the best +str+dex set. As for your suggestion to use Gore Rider, why would you want entirely unnecessary extra str at the expense of necessary dex? The Snappers is actually the best armour to use in this case.

And obviously this is freaking gear, thus <20 con.


 
Off [123]
2011-10-26 06:06:38
[13 years, 31 days ago]

@Rene: Gore rider is better in all ways. With snappers you are exactly wasting your base dex, which you mentioned by yourself ;) also, 4 statpoints more is a whole level.


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 06:37:22
[13 years, 31 days ago]
Gore rider is better in all ways.

Not, as Rene said,

in this case.

He already has too much STR to make a "perfect freak" answerer. What should he do? Should he do this? Because that's the earliest he's gonna get them with Gore Rider instead of Snappers, two levels later.

Level 73 answerers (x2) (Load) ______________________________ This was generated using Ender's build calculator. http://edmazur.com/bots/build_calculator.php
                             STR  CON  DEX  INT  ARMOR
Raven Caw                     +6       +10         550
Valkyrie Wing                      -4  +12         170
Satans Claw                  +10        +5   -8     91
Gore Rider                    +7   -5   +7          87
answerer           (102-204)
answerer           (102-204)
                             +23   -9  +34   -8    898

STR :  246 =  223+23         Left-hand  : 352.9-705.8
CON :   15 =   24 -9         Right-hand : 352.9-705.8
DEX :  102 =   68+34         HP         : 200
INT :    5 =   10 -8         Block      : 8.90%
                             Absorb     : 59.94%
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ReneDescartes [178]
2011-10-26 06:46:20
[13 years, 31 days ago]
@Rene: Gore rider is better in all ways. With snappers you are exactly wasting your base dex, which you mentioned by yourself ;) also, 4 statpoints more is a whole level.

I really don't want to explain myself again. Look at the OP's base stats. Why would you suggest using Gore Rider when with The Snappers you can get answerers 2 levels earlier?

Your comment on base dex is only relevant when comparing two builds on the same level where both pieces of armour will yield the target weapon. With Gore Rider you need a higher base dex but this is entirely offset by the fact that you have to wait 2 more levels to get answerers (In this case), in which time I could easily add 8 points of dex and have the same build as you, or 8 points of con and be superior to you. Plus I'd have answerers 2 levels before you as stated, which brings me back to the entire point of not using Gore Rider.


 
Off [123]
2011-10-26 06:50:24
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Actually, OP can make answerers at next level (70), if he has 9 redis pts :) and without crappy snappers


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 06:57:38
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Redis..


 
Off [123]
2011-10-26 07:00:01
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Yes redis. Anyway, this answerer idea is ridiculous generally, because that bot will suck.


 
neps [233]
<123>
2011-10-26 07:01:27
[13 years, 31 days ago]

It is common knowledge Off. We all know that Gore Rider is best for freaking. We all know that. We all know that.

I think its safe to say that, OP was not planning at getting answerers at 70 with Gore Rider, else he would not have added so much STR. So what is the solution? Adapt! And use different armors. Because in this case, yes, The Snappers IS a better choice. It manages to freak answerers earlier, and earlier in this case means better. So yeah.

And lol @ the thread degenerating, this is a thread about freaking brainbashers.


 
Off [123]
2011-10-26 07:04:32
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Some people don't realise even that, so... :)


 
CygnusAeternus [69]
2011-10-26 11:42:35
[13 years, 31 days ago]

rofl, that was my first forum post. holy shit@how it got hit with a wall of replies so fast

anyway what i'm aiming to do is level up fast without spending points on int. that's pretty much it.


 
ClanLord [125]
2011-10-26 11:51:04
[13 years, 31 days ago]

Gore Rider vs snappers is painfully obvious for freaking.

Gore Rider gives you 14 stats Snappers gives you 10

A different debate would be HPL helm vs Val Wing since they both give + 12 stats.

But we will save that for another thread!


 
CygnusAeternus [69]
2011-10-26 11:53:28
[13 years, 31 days ago]

oh, and i notice that every one of those builds is gonna stop me dead in my tracks in terms of leveling up...

so let me rephrase, and forget brainbashers. the best freaked strength build while maintaining at least 8 int?


 
ClanLord [125]
2011-10-26 11:55:37
[13 years, 31 days ago]

so let me rephrase, and forget brainbashers. the best freaked strength build while maintaining at least 8 int?

First of all, that is very inefficient.

Make yourself a very good equalizer/answerer freaked build and fight high ratios.

Because the 8 int idea is pretty much stupid, you might as well just make a normal int bot.


 
neps [234]
<123>
2011-10-26 12:02:50
[13 years, 31 days ago]
oh, and i notice that every one of those builds is gonna stop me dead in my tracks in terms of leveling up...

You asked for "freaked," so obviously, the builds are with the freaking armors, not the one's you're going to be training with..


 
DarkNinjaMaster [31]
2011-10-26 19:29:05
[13 years, 30 days ago]

This thread is a good example of what happens when you don't communicate. This is why I tried to ask what this person wanted. I don't feel so retarded now.

anyway what i'm aiming to do is level up fast without spending points on int.

Why? If it's to level fast now and fight later on you can go up to 45 or even 52 int and then redistribute it back to 10 later on. If it's just because then go for a 10 int build and just fight the highest ratio bots you can and you;ll level okay. You can also make for a normal 10 int build then change out a couple of the -int armours for +int armours and fight pretty much everybody and you'll level fast, I've done that myself, was hella fun.