suggestions

skipper [148]
2011-08-20 05:54:14
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I would like to see additional star amounts and times added.
There maximum currently amount is 10 stars for 1 day unique order or 6 non-unique items.
Why not add, for every additional star, 1-2 hours less of waiting?
E.g.: If I have 15 stars, I would have from 5 to 10 hours of time discount.
Or just make time tables for every additional star.

Also why not change 6 non-unique orders into 1 unique + 4 non-unique .. no one is ordering 6 weapons at the same time anyway


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 06:09:23
[13 years, 99 days ago]
  • it's really annoying to wait 24 hours if I can carry up to 20 stars at the same time. It has no downsides after all, speeding up the process.. time lock still remaining at 5 days should not encourage any item order exploit among multiple bots

 
Myriad [165]
2011-08-20 06:49:48
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I agree it would be nice to have shorter waiting times for orders with more stars. You can easily go through an armour in less than 4 hours if you don't have the stats to equip it, which means you still have to spend a lot of time camping even if you have 10+ stars.


 
Sera [107]
2011-08-20 06:53:32
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Agree.

If its hard to implement however I would not mind it being pushed down low on the priority, I dont see many people having more than 10 stars.

Besides I want CLAN PROFILES first if your reading Ender :D makes a women seduce Ender to make him make clan profiles


 
Raphael [47]
2011-08-20 06:56:42
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I think this is a dumb idea.. umm.. I don't really have a reason besides the fact skipper came up with it and he is dumb.


 
Sharkbait [52]
2011-08-20 06:58:19
[13 years, 99 days ago]

^^ agreed.


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 06:58:47
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Mentally ill people like the two above shouldn't be allowed to use the internet


 
Raphael [47]
2011-08-20 06:59:55
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Then what are you doing on it? o.o


 
dragonrose [90]
Head Moderator
2011-08-20 07:18:48
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I don't like this. I think it would make the advantage of having a star too great. Plus you already get the extra stash space per star, so it's not like you gain nothing.


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 07:21:40
[13 years, 99 days ago]

that almost equals to nothing


 
dragonrose [90]
Head Moderator
2011-08-20 07:22:54
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I disagree. I fully utilised & needed my 20+ stash spaces in Bots2.


 
Raphael [49]
2011-08-20 07:23:58
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Not to mention that freaking higher level bots requires a lot of stash spaces... it increases their value.


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 07:25:03
[13 years, 99 days ago]

you are against it because you aren't an INT bot. Items get trashed very fast at high levels where you require a very high number of trains, so the upkeep is very high (I'm not even speaking about using freaked armors to boost the xp gain a little more; the most durable item 1600 points get's trashed in less than 800 trains) and I always have to camp TOO


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 07:25:30
[13 years, 99 days ago]

talking to rose, btw


 
Raphael [49]
2011-08-20 07:26:08
[13 years, 99 days ago]

You do realize that fighting damages armours faster... right?


 
dragonrose [90]
Head Moderator
2011-08-20 07:29:28
[13 years, 99 days ago]

you are against it because you aren't an INT bot. Items get trashed very fast at high levels where you require a very high number of trains, so the upkeep is very high (I'm not even speaking about using freaked armors to boost the xp gain a little more; the most durable item 1600 points get's trashed in less than 800 trains) and I always have to camp TOO

I have a fair bit of experience maintaining a very high level bot & without at least 20 stash spaces it simply is not possible to train for long periods.

So like I said I believe the stash advantage is sufficient. no need for reduced ordering times too.


 
neps [158]
<123>
2011-08-20 08:03:04
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I go through a full set of armor in about 24 hours, which is why even one-day ordering alone will not be sufficient to cover my armors. That said, I have no problem with having to camp. It is part of the game, and like dragonrose said, the extra stash spaces are enough a perk to buy more than ten stars. You don't have to camp always, you can just stack on spares and camp when you're running low.


 
skipper [148]
2011-08-20 08:04:28
[13 years, 99 days ago]

@neps: you have to at least admit that you are running low faster than you can camp them. so even if you get your stash full, you'll eventually have to go camping again, since those items at high levels spawn once in 6 hours


 
Rico [83]
2011-08-20 08:52:07
[13 years, 99 days ago]

i believe remarks like this..

Then what are you doing on it? o.o

is what skipper meant by

Mentally ill people like the two above shouldn't be allowed to use the internet


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 08:53:27
[13 years, 99 days ago]

U mad Rico that I was dissing on your butt buddy? It's k.

I just call it as it is.


 
Rico [83]
2011-08-20 08:55:22
[13 years, 99 days ago]

nah, you just sound dumb. called as is, i believe.

i'm for this idea also.

~Hobo


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 08:57:33
[13 years, 99 days ago]

This idea was made for lazy people by a lazy douche bag... obviously people are going to agree to it if it balances the game more in their favour.. bunch of retards.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 09:08:32
[13 years, 99 days ago]

quite simply sir, Go Fuck Yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/SSQ2a.png


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 09:09:27
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Not in the mood aye bro.. but if you would like to give me a hand I ain't one to say no.


 
Tormented Soul [55]
2011-08-20 09:13:23
[13 years, 99 days ago]

as you can see Asmo, important people on this site (Sera, Myriad, Neps, Hobo) agreed to this. You're only here to show your hate, you're beeing digested by your own anger. I recommend seeing a psychologist


 
cwgarza [77]
2011-08-20 09:16:58
[13 years, 99 days ago]

this is were forum mods would be handy. they guy above me definitely should have his forum rights revoked...


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 09:19:20
[13 years, 99 days ago]

LOL! In your own thread skipper, how does that feel?

I am not angry though man.. it's just the truth of the code.. camping is easy enough for those tough times of need, and hey, if you are freaking your build and armour gets damaged faster, that's your problem, not something ender needs to make easier for you.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 09:22:14
[13 years, 99 days ago]

your mum was easy. BREAST MILK!


 
Tormented Soul [55]
2011-08-20 09:24:55
[13 years, 99 days ago]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 09:27:03
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Laughing at your own jokes... that aren't even funny, lmfao!


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 09:27:56
[13 years, 99 days ago]

ummmm... you got me confused with someone?

~Hobo


 
Angry Dutchman [53]
2011-08-20 09:29:27
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Asmo has astmo


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 09:30:50
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Oh, sorry Hobo, I thought you were slightly more retarded, my bad.

Still retarded though.


 
cwgarza [77]
2011-08-20 09:31:14
[13 years, 99 days ago]

seriously the guy makes a flame thread just about skipper...kinda scary/obsessive??? where does all this hatred come from??


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 09:31:24
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Random i am i never give a damn


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-08-20 09:40:20
[13 years, 99 days ago]

To OP, I don't have any plans of adding more star benefits as I don't want to tip the game balance towards donators any more at this point.

To others, please try to keep discussion in this subforum to the actual suggestion at hand. I'm much more likely to consider ideas that come from here if there's real discussion about them and posts like the above only get in the way.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 09:42:15
[13 years, 99 days ago]

lulz, fuck it. you see what i had to put up with? meh.


 
neps [158]
<123>
2011-08-20 18:40:15
[13 years, 99 days ago]
as you can see Asmo, important people on this site (Sera, Myriad, Neps, Hobo) agreed to this. You're only here to show your hate, you're beeing digested by your own anger. I recommend seeing a psychologist

I do not recall "agreeing" with this idea. I disagreed in fact.


 
skipper [149]
2011-08-20 18:43:34
[13 years, 99 days ago]

ok, Neps didn't agree.


 
neps [158]
<123>
2011-08-20 18:54:51
[13 years, 99 days ago]

And I don't see how I qualify as "important, I could die in my sleep and this game would continue on as usual. ^^


 
Alan [120]
2011-08-20 19:07:24
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I think each star should increase the one day ordering by like 30 minutes.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 19:14:59
[13 years, 99 days ago]

i think it should go 10 stars 1 unique 13-15 stars 2 0r 3 unique


 
skipper [149]
2011-08-20 19:19:50
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Ender doesn't want to incline the balance of the game in favor to those that actively support its development and running.

derp


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 19:20:50
[13 years, 99 days ago]

oh wait... i forgot he said that.. herpity derpity burp


 
neps [159]
<123>
2011-08-20 19:22:04
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Ender thinks the balance is tipped in their favor enough, and in my opinion he is right, especially with the advent of freaked builds.


 
skipper [149]
2011-08-20 19:24:09
[13 years, 99 days ago]

he's right, star owners are too buffed and need a nerf.
I hereby suggest a new ordering system:

1 star = 237 days of non unique orders (half at a time)
2 stars = 236 days of non unique orders (this time you can order 1 full)
3 stars = 148 days of unique ordering (but only armors below 100 STR)
..
20 stars = 14 days of ordering (4 non-unique and/or 1 unique)


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 19:26:13
[13 years, 99 days ago]

lol. just lol


 
neps [159]
<123>
2011-08-20 19:40:04
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I'm not even going to comment on that.


 
Golem [33]
2011-08-20 19:41:04
[13 years, 99 days ago]

you just did.


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 19:41:20
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Someone (skipper) is acting like a spoilt little girl on her period.

Weird how even Ender agreed with me, eh Skipper? BAHAHAHA.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 19:45:53
[13 years, 99 days ago]

I think this is a dumb idea.. umm.. I don't really have a reason besides the fact skipper came up with it and he is dumb.

strange how ender would agree to a half witted post that means nothing?

it is settled now anyway children, Endyclause has spoken and now we must play nice for a few days. so asmo, please, keep your negativity on your side of the screen.


 
Asmodeus [77]
2011-08-20 19:48:53
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Clearly you didn't read my subsequent post.


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-20 19:51:38
[13 years, 99 days ago]

Then what are you doing on it? o.o

that one?


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 02:33:31
[13 years, 98 days ago]

ignore my post above, I was drunk


 
Disturbed [85]
2011-08-21 03:29:09
[13 years, 98 days ago]

Meh, everyone has the option to donate, don't whine when either you can't afford to donate or are just to lazy, feels as though people who have donated to this game are hated by those who don't, no need to be jealous boys and girls the link is there for everyone to click not just those who have :)


 
Rico [83]
2011-08-21 05:52:11
[13 years, 98 days ago]

so stop being poor cunts


 
Talus [110]
2011-08-21 08:51:10
[13 years, 98 days ago]

I think the way it is right now is just fine. You do not have a great game changing advantage with them, but there is still an advantage, and a logo if anyone wants to make one for me....


 
Dragon [64]
2011-08-21 12:53:02
[13 years, 98 days ago]

logos are the tits


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 14:22:02
[13 years, 98 days ago]
Someone (skipper) is acting like a spoilt little girl on her period. Weird how even Ender agreed with me, eh Skipper? BAHAHAHA.

You got me in this one, hands down. I hate spending time in the showroom, camping, whilst I could do better things. If I afford to contribute, this is the only thing I want to be helped with, not having to shop. After all, I'm playing this game alone, training, so what Ender said doesn't qualify as in giving me a great advantage; advantage as in compared to who? The same thing can be said to those who have more time than others to spend, training or shopping. They should be limited by Ender as well, so we can all be equal and spend same time with this. (this was just an example, I coincidentally spend the maximum time and wouldn't want this happen, but I'm just following the logic "wouldn't wanna tip the balance of the game even more towards donators"). That being said, I will stop from further support


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-08-21 15:07:10
[13 years, 98 days ago]

I'd decided I was going to ignore your not-so-subtle jabs at me skipper, but since you seem intent on continuing...

When you send me money, you are paying for a very specific set of benefits described here. No more, no less. You are not paying for my time or my attention, nor the ability to demand additional benefits.

Before I started playing bots2, I played a turn-based game where players had the ability to buy additional turns. The winner each month was all but decided by who paid the most that month. Coming to bots2 and seeing the star system was a breath of fresh air. Stars were a great benefit to have and helped you out tremendously, but they were by no means strictly necessary to be competitive. Maintaining this balance in bots4 is important to me.

I'm inclined to agree with Asmodeus that you're acting like a spoilt little girl on her period. You asked for something. I politely explained why I would not give it (and even asked others not to spam your thread). You didn't get the answer you wanted, so now you're whining and taking cheap shots at me. This is what a child does.

And as for your trying to hang your financial support over my head like some carrot I'm supposed to jump for, you're not the first person to try this and you certainly won't be the first to fail. This business has always been a passion for me and the monetary gain just a nice bonus. I worked on bots4 for over a year before seeing a dime (and BU for many years before that). I'm happily employed as a software engineer elsewhere and do not have to rely on the revenue generated by this game to maintain my standard of living.

I've also made a mental note to be more mindful when choosing whether or not to respond to posts made by you in the future, now that you've shown how you react when you don't get the answer you want. Easier to just ignore you as long as you're deciding to be troublesome. Do let me know if you have a change of heart.

TL;DR: Stop taking cheap shots at me.


 
Golem [33]
2011-08-21 15:10:39
[13 years, 98 days ago]

owned by the man


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-08-21 15:10:53
[13 years, 98 days ago]

And I was hoping this was obvious, but in case it isn't, the next update allows you to spend your achievement points and this was a big factor in my shooting down this particular idea at this time. You will be able to purchase tangible benefits that improve your bot. Achievement points are of course available to everyone, but you do get an additional 180 points with every star you buy. You can hardly accuse me of slighting those that "support" the game.


 
Golem [33]
2011-08-21 15:12:04
[13 years, 98 days ago]

OMFGWTFBBQROFLCOPPTERGASM!! YOU DID WHAT?..... i love you


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 15:46:52
[13 years, 98 days ago]
And I was hoping this was obvious, but in case it isn't, the next update allows you to spend your achievement points and this was a big factor in my shooting down this particular idea at this time. You will be able to purchase tangible benefits that improve your bot. Achievement points are of course available to everyone, but you do get an additional 180 points with every star you buy. You can hardly accuse me of slighting those that "support" the game.

So I had to bother writing 30 "cheapshot posts" to find this out now? Your information and updates are rare and expensive. Your first explanation left me in the dark, thinking that I will always have to face this unpleasant showroom time. But yet you where already figuring a way out of this, but instead of a hint or anything at all, you preferred to let me knock my head off in tens of posts. Nice going


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 15:47:47
[13 years, 98 days ago]

PS: and not everything is as obvious as you may seem it is.


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 15:48:07
[13 years, 98 days ago]

think*


 
Alan [120]
2011-08-21 15:51:07
[13 years, 98 days ago]

^ take it from the guy who has been in more fights with Ender than anyone. Just shut-up and move on man.

You. Can't. Win.


 
CheerPuppy [42]
2011-08-21 15:52:02
[13 years, 98 days ago]

^


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 15:54:07
[13 years, 98 days ago]

I don't want to win, I just need that particular information that says:
You wont get damn better qualification time for more stars but I will add this to the achievement system, idiot". This was all I needed


 
CheerPuppy [42]
2011-08-21 15:54:53
[13 years, 98 days ago]

Anyone with common sense would figure out the answer without asking.


 
skipper [150]
2011-08-21 15:59:41
[13 years, 98 days ago]
I've also made a mental note to be more mindful when choosing whether or not to respond to posts made by you in the future

Helpful or not as I've been, I will stop posting anyway. Not as a whine, but because I found out what was important for me and have no further suggestions/helpful thought that I'm interested in.


 
Nosferatu [88]
2011-08-21 18:51:06
[13 years, 98 days ago]

I've yet to discover a thread where you actually were "helpful"


 
neps [159]
<123>
2011-08-21 18:53:38
[13 years, 98 days ago]

He did make the majority of the server look smart by comparison, higher self-esteem is always helpful.


 
Badger [87]
2011-08-21 23:29:47
[13 years, 97 days ago]

Couldn't have said it better myself Neps.

And also, Lol @Alan's comment.