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dragonrose [44]
Head Moderator
2012-01-18 11:36:20
[12 years, 312 days ago]

At the moment when you lose a battle you also lose a third of your kudos. I feel that this steep penalty puts some people off of battling harder bots ... or it may just be me :P

Anyhoo to remove this barrier could you amount of kudos lost be adjusted to, i don't know, something like 10%?


 
Shadowfax [78]
2012-01-18 11:50:47
[12 years, 312 days ago]

Would it work both ways? IE when you beat a bot you only gain a certain %? Orrrrr Something I'd be infavor of: modes. "hardcore mode" where you loose 50 to 75% of your kudos for losing and a normal mode that'd be something like the 10% you said. The mode would be set up when you make your bot and unchangeable or have a delay similar to stars to prevent abuse... But regardless I'd like the punishment to be a bit less than it is now, maybe not down to 10 but 20 or 15.


 
Trio [139]
2012-01-18 13:09:02
[12 years, 312 days ago]

I don't see how money could be much of a problem. PVP when you have little money, that's what I used to do (now I just fight higher train bots if I don't have enough). Use a kudos whore to buy something from the showroom.


 
shoyuken [131]
2012-01-18 13:12:29
[12 years, 312 days ago]

and if you really need kudos, you could get the kudos buff


 
Alan [52]
2012-01-18 13:13:14
[12 years, 312 days ago]

kudo buff = training.

not pvp


 
neps [307]
<123>
2012-01-18 14:09:01
[12 years, 312 days ago]

The kudos buff is actually very helpful in stealing back kudos from another "good" bot you unexpectedly lost to. Normally you'd need a string of victories to "take back" your cash if you lose it to someone, and if it's a good bot you can waste a lot of fights fishing for a fluke win string.

With a 200% kudos buff, two consecutive wins will take about almost nine tenths of an opponent's kudos. You'd need to do at least 6 wins in a row normally to beat that percentage of stolen kudos.


 
Draoi [101]
2012-01-18 14:33:17
[12 years, 312 days ago]

buy all the buffs!!


 
DarkNinjaMaster [53]
2012-01-18 18:42:24
[12 years, 312 days ago]

I already have 7.

Also, I like this, decreasing the kudos won/lost from a fight to 10% would make fishing for targets a lot more attractive.


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-01-18 21:05:15
[12 years, 312 days ago]

I'm in favor of making it more worthwhile to attack "real" bots, so I'd consider this. Curious to hear other negative viewpoints though. I wouldn't want to make it too hard to hold onto kudos.


 
DarkNinjaMaster [53]
2012-01-18 21:26:02
[12 years, 312 days ago]

Do you mean to easy? Because I thought the point was it was already to hard.


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-01-18 21:31:25
[12 years, 312 days ago]

Hm no, too hard I think. If you lose less kudos when attacking someone and you lose, it makes it easier to take kudos, and therefore harder to hold onto them? If it's already too hard, maybe this is a bad idea.


 
Draoi [101]
2012-01-18 21:39:11
[12 years, 312 days ago]

And endlessly complicated :<


 
Gpof2 [27]
2012-01-18 22:29:36
[12 years, 312 days ago]

The only thing that keeps me from attacking "normal" bots is the fact that I'll level off them if I win.


 
dragonrose [44]
Head Moderator
2012-01-19 11:03:43
[12 years, 311 days ago]

Hm no, too hard I think. If you lose less kudos when attacking someone and you lose, it makes it easier to take kudos, and therefore harder to hold onto them? If it's already too hard, maybe this is a bad idea.

my kudos is already safeish when I'm offline if I pay the bots union, so i'm ok with that still being a third (or more with buffs).

so ye just reduce the amount of kudos transferred for bots that attack.

btw the use of buffs may contain the problem whilst i have points to spend, but it is not a long term solution. plus i'm not even sure that a kudos buff is worthwhile using on a negative int bot :P


 
neps [307]
<123>
2012-01-19 11:07:45
[12 years, 311 days ago]

I've had the same kudos buff for about three months now. I only use it when I need it. Usually only two or three fights.

The original idea is good though, and I think it would encourage "real wars."


 
Inferno [125]
2012-01-19 11:08:30
[12 years, 311 days ago]

Bank? ;)


 
Nosferatu [1]
2012-01-24 14:58:37
[12 years, 306 days ago]

So you are saying if Bot A attacks Bot B and wins Bot A should gain 1/3rd of Bot B's Kudos, but if Bot A loses then Bot A should only lose 1/10th of his Kudos?

Yeah I don't see how that is fair. I'm not suggesting that the game should be fair, but I do believe everything should be on equal footing.


 
Made2shred [139]
2012-01-24 22:30:50
[12 years, 306 days ago]

I'm not suggesting that the game should be fair

what exactly are you trying to say?


 
Ideotik God [140]
2012-01-25 14:57:43
[12 years, 305 days ago]

I do believe the "but" covered that.


 
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