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TheSteelRat [87]
2015-03-07 06:38:26
[9 years, 262 days ago]

As Ender suggested and since this thing was least discussed in original topic. (There was and still is more important things to talk) I would like to suggest to lower entry fee for future tournaments. I think some fee should stay, but should be lowered. As it is now, if your bot arent specifically made just for incoming tournament, most likely you going to have problems to collect kudos for it. Especially if you arent so active/dont have kudos bots. I know kudos bots isnt hard to make, but still i dont think it shouldnt be one of few/only solution if you want to compete in tourney.


 
ActiveX [271]
Head Moderator
2015-03-07 10:07:36
[9 years, 262 days ago]

tbh I don't get why we pay an entry fee at all.

Scrapping the entry fee would make it easier for newer players, particularly those at lower levels, to participate. Kudos there is quite tight unless you have kudos whores,


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2015-03-11 01:52:51
[9 years, 258 days ago]

The current entree fee is the price of a redis point at the max level of the category (or min level for category 1, which has no max level). I've heard from multiple people that this ended up being a fairly harsh fee for certain level ranges.

I chose that pricing structure fairly arbitrarily and am willing to change it. I think some sort of fee is reasonable, so the question is how high should it be? Is 10% of the current fee reasonable at all level ranges?

For discussion purposes, since the tournament fees aren't currently visible on the homepage, here's what they currently are:

  • Category 1 (201+) - 5,000,000 kudos
  • Category 2 (176-200) - 5,000,000 kudos
  • Category 3 (151-175) - 5,000,000 kudos
  • Category 4 (141-150) - 3,375,000 kudos
  • Category 5 (131-140) - 2,744,000 kudos
  • Category 6 (121-130) - 2,197,000 kudos
  • Category 7 (111-120) - 1,728,000 kudos
  • Category 8 (101-110) - 1,331,000 kudos
  • Category 9 (91-100) - 1,000,000 kudos
  • Category 10 (81-90) - 656,100 kudos
  • Category 11 (71-80) - 409,600 kudos
  • Category 12 (61-70) - 240,100 kudos
  • Category 13 (51-60) - 129,600 kudos
  • Category 14 (41-50) - 62,500 kudos
  • Category 15 (31-40) - 25,600 kudos
  • Category 16 (20-30) - 8,100 kudos

And here's what they'd be at 10% of that:

  • Category 1 (201+) - 500,000 kudos
  • Category 2 (176-200) - 500,000 kudos
  • Category 3 (151-175) - 500,000 kudos
  • Category 4 (141-150) - 337,500 kudos
  • Category 5 (131-140) - 274,400 kudos
  • Category 6 (121-130) - 219,700 kudos
  • Category 7 (111-120) - 172,800 kudos
  • Category 8 (101-110) - 133,100 kudos
  • Category 9 (91-100) - 100,000 kudos
  • Category 10 (81-90) - 65,610 kudos
  • Category 11 (71-80) - 40,960 kudos
  • Category 12 (61-70) - 24,010 kudos
  • Category 13 (51-60) - 12,960 kudos
  • Category 14 (41-50) - 6,250 kudos
  • Category 15 (31-40) - 2,560 kudos
  • Category 16 (20-30) - 810 kudos

 
Fishwick [134]
Moderator
2015-03-11 04:47:30
[9 years, 258 days ago]

If it's going to be that low, there isn't really a point in having one at all.


 
Jans [90]
2015-03-11 05:13:17
[9 years, 258 days ago]

Indeed, might as well scrap entree fees


 
Gpof2 [130]
2015-03-11 05:14:15
[9 years, 258 days ago]

Or just make it one kudo if that saves you from having to recode more


 
Nosferatu [278]
2015-03-11 13:19:28
[9 years, 258 days ago]

Make it a running gag, and make the entry fee equal to the category you are in.

  • Category 1 (276+) - 1 kudos
  • Category 2 (201-275) - 2 kudos
  • Category 3 (176-200) - 3 kudos
  • Category 4 (151-175) - 4 kudos
  • Category 5 (141-150) - 5 kudos
  • Category 6 (131-140) - 6 kudos
  • Category 7 (121-130) - 7 kudos
  • Category 8 (111-120) - 8 kudos
  • Category 9 (101-110) - 9 kudos
  • Category 10 (91-100) - 10 kudos
  • Category 11 (81-90) - 11 kudos
  • Category 12 (71-80) - 12 kudos
  • Category 13 (61-70) - 13 kudos
  • Category 14 (51-60) - 14 kudos
  • Category 15 (41-50) - 15 kudos
  • Category 16 (31-40) - 16 kudos
  • Category 17 (20-30) - 17 kudos

As noted, I also made a minor "suggestion" for splitting Category 1 into 2 cats. After looking at the bots registered for Cat 1, I though this seemed like a fairly good spot to split it for now (until more higher level bots come along and warrant it to be split more).


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2015-03-11 22:52:17
[9 years, 258 days ago]

I'm still somewhat in favor of having some entry fee. Maybe I'll do 20% of the current fee, but having to put forth some amount of effort to register for the tournament doesn't seem too unreasonable.


 
Trio [360]
2015-03-12 08:46:38
[9 years, 257 days ago]

Plenty of bots registered for this first tournament with it's entry fee, why not 50%. Enough so that people do still have to put forth the effort you want, maintain as well as collect enough for the entry fee.

Obviously this last tournament did not have a huge barrier to entry as there were lots of participants.


 
TheSteelRat [87]
2015-03-12 12:50:16
[9 years, 257 days ago]

Or just set 5mln kudos for each and every cat, so where wont be to much bots... Honestly I dont see point of having entry fee at all. If you have bot, you already made enough effort into the game. If someone really want to make dumpers to improve they chances to win. They will make them and add them no meter how big entry fee is, so entry fee would be useless anyway.
And honestly this game already awards people who adds more time/money into the game and its fair, but do we really need to make more obstacles for less active/newer players to enjoy it as well?


 
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