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zizu2 [30]
2024-01-08 18:01:49
[116 days ago]

So people keep complaining about how unbeatable this clan is without any thought or serious attempt at it.

Tl;dr What you need:

People that can click links thats it.

In terms of the actual logistics of it Lusitania has enough people to do it but are doing a poor job overall of capitalizing on their limited advantages.

You need to control low level energy. Only cosby has whores down there and you need to take as much of it as often as you can every single day this only takes 3 people max to cover 26-60 where most of the energy resides.

If Erik clans his ot bots in the 20s you need to non stop drain them until hes forced to declan them which is more likely than him actually dumping all of the energy.

In terms of dealing with the "unlimited dumper" issue you literally have the counter already. DUMP WITH ZIZ BOTS STOP ATTACKING THEM. they were designed for extreme dumping speed not to be attacked.

Apex is already putting a hell of alot of losses on their good 60 eph dumpers. Your playing a war of attrition that cannot be sustained forever. Every win theydump they have to windump later to fix the ratios on those bots. Right now they can actively do it during a month because your putting 0 pressure on them to need to actually score.

Use your advantages and patch up the serious weakness at lower levels to shut down their ability to do anything other than dump and it will eventually break their ability to win.

Escapism vs Eternal transition didnt happen over night its a long game to play as they have years of resources piled up but it is by no means impossible to beat them.

You guys keep bitching about this and your literally walking into their way of playing the game. Stop doing that shit and actually focus on what you need to do to win.


 
Asmodeus [130]
2024-01-08 18:14:42
[116 days ago]

You can't dump ziz bots because Apex drains them.


 
zizu2 [30]
2024-01-08 18:15:23
[116 days ago]

i could take more energy dumping those bots than they can any day of the week


 
Asmodeus [130]
2024-01-08 18:16:44
[116 days ago]

I mean, sure. If you want to log on 500 different bots to gain 2-300 energy from each one (if you are lucky).


 
zizu2 [30]
2024-01-08 18:16:47
[116 days ago]

hell theres 300k on them right now noones touching


 
Zach01 [373]
2024-01-08 18:18:35
[116 days ago]

Tbf though kev thats there because we have 2.3 mil lead, its been at 100 max while it was competetive.


 
Asmodeus [130]
2024-01-08 18:19:34
[116 days ago]

If we started dumping them Apex would just start draining them again.


 
zizu2 [30]
2024-01-08 18:21:06
[116 days ago]

ya thats fair but the load time on the 100 page atm is shitty much less trying to find all 500 attacking them vs being on a bot for all of 15 seconds to dump it and move on non stop. Hell attackers cant even use speeds vs ziz always have speeds going you just have to cycle them non stop its tedious as fuck but it was designed for my stupid long scoring days i guess. but you can train a monkey to cycle them properly


 
Zach01 [373]
2024-01-08 18:22:15
[116 days ago]

You are right though that they just need to click and try harder :)


 
zizu2 [30]
2024-01-08 18:23:28
[116 days ago]

ya they dont realize its a finite game those 60 eph dumpers take a hell of alot of backend maintenance to deal with odd are youll break peoples will power after a few months of having to fix them if not sooner but what do i know :P


 
Asmodeus [130]
2024-01-08 18:24:11
[116 days ago]

Half our team isn't even playing at the moment and esv has been awol for 4 days.
I don't believe this month was ever about winning anyway, more testing the waters.
I already got the info out of the month that I needed, now I am working on building my resources.


 
Gpof2 [131]
2024-01-09 02:11:48
[116 days ago]

You guys keep bitching about this

I don't think I've actually seen anyone from there complaining. Some good advice in here though.


 
Storm of Memories [150]
2024-01-09 03:08:49
[116 days ago]

At least not complaining on public forums! :D


 
Busbot [225]
2024-01-09 03:09:28
[116 days ago]

I remember when Kev disbanded a clan just so I would have less targets.


 
Scabara [76]
2024-01-09 08:08:30
[115 days ago]

Like Gpof said, no ones whining really (beyond Zal but thats par for the course).

Lusitania were doing fine and in the lead, could definitely use more infrastructure but they were already winning the low level game. They just need to wait until Apex doesn't also include probably the top scorer in the game that they say is an AC'er (but only on months they are competing against him)


 
Sinister Shadows [397]
2024-01-09 08:18:10
[115 days ago]

ok lets just set something clear the dumping was Aldin's choice we didnt form some secret alliance so he could help us, and again stop using that as an excuse he dumped 200k on vector alpha, that 200k isnt even much compared to the lead we have and also Tucks and Peet arent scoring/slower then usual.


 
Scabara [76]
2024-01-09 08:21:08
[115 days ago]

It's not an excuse and I didn't say it was a secret alliance, but Apex + Aldin is a lot harder to beat than just Apex.


 
Zach01 [373]
2024-01-09 09:56:22
[115 days ago]

They just need to wait until Apex doesn't also include probably the top scorer in the game that they say is an AC'er (but only on months they are competing against him)

Sounds like an indirect complaint to me, none of our views have changed on Aldin I wouldn't accept him in Apex, I also think he's a nice guy and enjoy talking with him, besides the point as OT already said his score is 5% of our total score and we were already winning comfortably when he started after someone pissed him off(which must have been a lot for him to dump on our bot).

We just work better as a team, we will score or dump on eachothers bots and are all very selfless as thats what it takes to win not to mention much better prepared. Also when you win a competetive month it feels good and you can rock out hard for a few days after with a big grin on your face so I enjoy that too and use it as motivation.


 
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