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Alan [122]
2011-08-27 19:51:38
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I have talked to Ender about the site. Since he is focused on Bots4 / Google, he can't keep BU up to date in coding / security.

I was wondering, If I made a Bots4unauthorized, would anyone actually use it?

It would feature

  • A very fast Build calculator
  • Lots of helpful tips about what armors to use
  • A simulator, with limitations
  • A "new player" section
  • A build planner, would require account login off my site I made
  • Lists of weapon paths
  • and other little nifty things.

Before I put the time into really making the site and then nobody use it because BU is here, I liked to be informed. I don't plan to "replace" BU, just to have an alternate site to help people with.

Thanks,
-Alan


 
Sinister Shadows [171]
2011-08-27 19:53:47
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I'm terrible when building bots, so I would use all the resources available ...

so +1 on those that would use it.


 
kofi [125]
2011-08-27 20:06:25
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I'd use it if I was a mod there too. Oh and you should ask ender to let you extract the stats HoF data or something, cause that'd be cool.


 
Hobo [113]
2011-08-27 20:08:05
[13 years, 93 days ago]

yeah i like this and would use it


 
Alan [122]
2011-08-27 20:08:17
[13 years, 93 days ago]

See, that's what I want to do. It would be farther down the road right now. Where I could "Ask" for the data somehow. Right now, I could just copy paste the screen shot and put it on there.

Mod? ^^


 
neps [168]
<123>
2011-08-27 20:41:30
[13 years, 93 days ago]

Well, I always did fail to see the point in have a "BOTS Unauthorized" site if the guy who ran it ran BOTS as well. Good idea Alan, hope you do well.


 
DarkNinjaMaster [82]
2011-08-27 21:34:48
[13 years, 93 days ago]

Heck yeah, this game needs someone to be what Ender was for Bots2


 
Made2shred [79]
2011-08-27 22:11:56
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I'd use it, heck I'd even help u make it :)


 
CheerPuppy [43]
2011-08-27 22:27:27
[13 years, 93 days ago]

+1


 
dragonrose [91]
Head Moderator
2011-08-28 04:16:48
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I'd use it :)


 
Smeagol [183]
2011-08-28 05:22:29
[13 years, 93 days ago]

I would use it aswell.


 
gr33n [64]
2011-08-28 05:33:34
[13 years, 93 days ago]

Go for it :)


 
Alan [122]
2011-08-28 12:04:02
[13 years, 92 days ago]

I have a huge free day today. Looks like I'll start it.

Thanks guys :)


 
Insomn [141]
2011-08-31 01:52:37
[13 years, 90 days ago]

+1 I'm sure everyone will as well


 
Alan [30]
2011-09-05 15:06:54
[13 years, 84 days ago]

Still jugging along on this guys.

Could somebody make me a Bots4 : Unauthorized picture?


 
Satanus Inaximasus [132]
2011-09-05 15:41:21
[13 years, 84 days ago]

Message dyna he will gladly make you one mate


 
Jules [78]
2011-09-05 22:44:27
[13 years, 84 days ago]

You should state what the dimensions are btw and any concept ideas


 
Alan [75]
2011-09-05 22:46:49
[13 years, 84 days ago]

~500px x 100px

Be creative :D


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-06 21:05:17
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Well...

It's "ready".

http://bots4.eu.pn (Sorry for the crappy domain)

  • A build calculator : It still needs some "fancy" stuff
  • A New Player guide
  • The Basic formulas
  • A very fast item database : You can search for any item currently in bots4
  • Strength Weapon paths
  • Armor lists
  • On site Forum
  • A list of all userscript scripts available so far

Much more to come
Want to give a shout out to Jules for the GREAT LOGO!

Thanks,
-Alan


 
Jules [78]
2011-09-06 21:37:14
[13 years, 83 days ago]

OMG Noooo you squished it ><

Sec, I'll redo the logo


 
Cheapshot [102]
2011-09-06 22:04:43
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Go juLia! ^_^


 
DarkNinjaMaster [83]
2011-09-06 23:11:12
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Nice start Alan!

Under terminology Energizer is missing an r, says enegizer.

Also by your definition of a freak my scarabs is a freak compared to a noob with scarabs that doesn't have all the best uniques, I suggest changing it to "A bot that uses armour and/or weapons that it doesn't have the required stats to equip"

*waits for discussion on the definition of a freak*


 
DarkNinjaMaster [83]
2011-09-06 23:12:26
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Also, great a place to list all the userscripts :D your build calc runs super fast too, can't wait till that is more developed!


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-06 23:17:05
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Editted. Thanks DNM


 
Emanuel [39]
2011-09-07 01:06:44
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Looks good, and thanks for linking to my scripts, man that's a lot of scripts I've written :P

A few suggestions:

When searching for an item, make it match anywhere in the string. So if you search for "uby katan", it would find "ruby katana". And if you search for just "katana" it would show all weapons with "katana" in their name.

In the build calculator, make it possible to select an item by clicking its row, rather than just the name. Change the color (slightly) of the row when you hover it, and set the CSS "cursor" to "pointer".

It's also not possible to choose two weapons, but I'm guessing that's on the TODO list?

Oh, and you're missing the new weapons.


 
ActiveX [134]
Head Moderator
2011-09-07 02:50:24
[13 years, 83 days ago]

Great start alan :)

I can't seem to post in your forum :|


 
Off [65]
2011-09-07 04:27:25
[13 years, 83 days ago]

I like that logo even more than the one that's used in the game now...


 
Satanus Inaximasus [134]
2011-09-07 05:05:01
[13 years, 83 days ago]

great start Alan but dont go fucking it all up lol


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-07 08:23:18
[13 years, 82 days ago]
  • I'll work on that search feature
  • I've got a few things left to do on the build calculator

  • I personally don't see a reason to have two different weapons?

  • new weapons? You mean reptilian battle hammer and stuff? It is there.

Also, Thanks guys!


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-07 08:29:47
[13 years, 82 days ago]

For the forum thing, I had set all people to Level 1 on my local set. Then on here, I forgot. Fixed now though.


 
Agile Azrael [153]
2011-09-07 08:33:42
[13 years, 82 days ago]

I do quite like the logo also


 
DarkNinjaMaster [83]
2011-09-07 08:42:53
[13 years, 82 days ago]

Yeah that logo rocks pretty hard, now to make a userscript for your site that puts a box on it so I never see it, also, top forum user!


 
Emanuel [39]
2011-09-07 14:10:11
[13 years, 82 days ago]
I personally don't see a reason to have two different weapons?

I agree there's not a lot of reason, but it might make sense that someone wants to see his max and min damage with two different weapons (at the same time).

new weapons? You mean reptilian battle hammer and stuff? It is there.

No, I meant Crab Whistler and Broken Bottle etc.


 
Draoi [137]
2011-09-07 14:47:19
[13 years, 82 days ago]

Did jules make the logo?


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-07 14:55:31
[13 years, 82 days ago]

Oh, I'll add those.

Ya, jules made the logo.


 
Draoi [137]
2011-09-07 14:58:28
[13 years, 82 days ago]

Also, it's weird. When you go to site, the font is one size, but when you click on home, it is different.


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-07 16:26:13
[13 years, 82 days ago]

The build calculator page runs on its own font size to make for smaller boxes. It messes with the links up top.


 
Emanuel [39]
2011-09-07 17:09:55
[13 years, 82 days ago]
The build calculator page runs on its own font size to make for smaller boxes. It messes with the links up top.

You do know that it's possible to use different font sizes on different elements? :P


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-07 17:56:12
[13 years, 82 days ago]

^ I'll ignore that post.


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-08 01:13:46
[13 years, 82 days ago]

Update!

  • Changed the font bug on the home page
  • Big update for the build calculator

    • It now updates what items you can use, on the fly ( Very Fast! )
    • Background change
    • Fixed it so you can't have less than 5 of any stat point total
  • Fixed some other little bugs

-Alan


 
Made2shred [93]
2011-09-08 02:22:49
[13 years, 82 days ago]

build calc needs better highlighting.


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-09 21:23:36
[13 years, 80 days ago]

Update!!

The Build Calculator now

  • Makes a url with the "Generate Url" button
  • Has an item search feature, just click what shows up or hover over it

Thanks for the support!

-Alan


 
Made2shred [104]
2011-09-09 22:29:05
[13 years, 80 days ago]

its progressing at a good rate, keep up the good work!


 
Off [101]
2011-09-10 09:37:17
[13 years, 79 days ago]

When you're not even logged in, a "Log Out" link is still visible and active.
Screen


 
Alan [79]
2011-09-10 13:27:48
[13 years, 79 days ago]

I have Google Analytics set up on my site.

Since I have released it, here are the stats so far.

  • Visits : 101
  • Pageviews : 906
  • Average Time on site : 00:09:12 minutes
  • Most Viewed page : http://bots4.eu.pn/forum/ (118 views)
  • Traffic Source : 63% Referring, 37% Direct
  • New Views vs Returning Views : 46%, 55%
  • Most Often Browser : Chrome (55), Firefox (39)
  • Highest Country view : USA (45), Australia (14)

Thanks Guys!

-Alan


 
Roman [29]
2011-09-13 22:28:17
[13 years, 76 days ago]

Bump.

-Alan


 
Roman [30]
2011-09-15 16:31:29
[13 years, 74 days ago]

This morning, I had wanted to find a host that allows cron jobs. Well I did, http://powwebs.com/ . It is cheaper than my other host and it is ran much better (it seems). I have converted the http://bots4.eu.pn/ to this new one.

Well, what is the new site you ask?
http://botsunauthorized.net/

Thanks for the support so far guys!
-Alan


 
ActiveX [138]
Head Moderator
2011-09-15 16:33:18
[13 years, 74 days ago]

no forum!


 
Roman [30]
2011-09-15 16:33:45
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Good call!.

Haha.


 
Mainor II [146]
2011-09-15 19:04:53
[13 years, 74 days ago]

some stuff im guessing you are working on, but nevertheless, some suggestions. I only bothered about the big stuff since it is still work in progress :)

Overal:
- Please use a non sans-serif font. It would make the small font letters much easier to read with the calculator for instance.
- some font colours do not match. especially the green hurts my eyes at the formula page. perhaps you can try some other green/colours?
- use the same font size across pages.

Home:
- link to this thread, so people know which thread to use and can directly post something.

Calculator:
- highlight 'equipped' armour/weapon
- option to hide non-unique armours
- Your screen must be quite wide to also show the shields. This could be on purpose, but maybe you have a better solution?
- search function: include a 'search all' (perhaps as default?)
- make the titles of the colums stay on top, e.d. weapon, min, max str, dex etc.

New Player:
- a better name would perhaps be: player guide/bot guide/build guide i cant be bothered thinking of something else, since this page has the lowest priority in my opinion.

Item Search:
- this page has all the space i needs, but then doesnt use it. Instead, i would make a page displaying all the item into more detail. Basically as in the calculator but then bigger and with a search funtion.
-again, make a search all function and make this default.

That is it for now. Good work and it looks promising :)


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-15 19:47:47
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Why would you want to search all results on the build calculator?


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2011-09-15 19:54:47
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Heh, BU is hosted on powweb as well.


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-15 19:55:30
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Nice!


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-15 20:45:40
[13 years, 74 days ago]

?p=noob

Heh he he!


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-15 21:28:27
[13 years, 74 days ago]

UPDATE!

Now, my site pulls the clan ranks every hour and checks how it is doing against the last hour. It keeps all records, which will make for updates later for each clan. If you clan isn't shown, wait until the next hour.

More to come now that I know how to do this!

-Alan


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-15 21:28:53
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Link : http://botsunauthorized.net/?p=clans


 
Jules [78]
2011-09-15 21:31:55
[13 years, 74 days ago]

That is very cool! Thanks =)


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-16 01:16:44
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Okay now THATS the shit.


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-16 01:27:33
[13 years, 74 days ago]

And yet immediately I want more, like the ability to see historic data for this (I know you don't have any yet :P)

Also, hover your mouse over the logo to see a little humility :D


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-16 01:30:13
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Humility?

I'll prolly add the archive when i have 24 hours of logs. Probably do a "24 period" rank after the one hour has been sent.

Hof is next.


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-16 01:32:44
[13 years, 74 days ago]

Hmm, is humility the right word?

Humility (adjectival form: humble) is the quality of being modest, and respectful.

Yup :D


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-16 01:33:54
[13 years, 74 days ago]

I've always thought as that word as "making fun of someone"...


 
ActiveX [138]
Head Moderator
2011-09-16 01:50:05
[13 years, 74 days ago]

that's humiliating alan


 
Agile Azrael [161]
2011-09-16 07:52:07
[13 years, 73 days ago]

Very awesome, and the clans can be sorted!


 
Cccheapshot [60]
2011-09-16 07:54:29
[13 years, 73 days ago]

Indeed! it's very awesome!


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-16 09:54:27
[13 years, 73 days ago]

Ahh. Okay Rose. :D

Also, I'll make it so you can reverse the order of the table also.


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-16 10:58:52
[13 years, 73 days ago]

Update!

The Clan Ranking now "Archives" clans.
At the clan ranking, click on any clan and it will take you to their archive. If your clan was just made, it will not show up until the next hour.

Thanks!
-Alan


 
Agile Azrael [161]
2011-09-16 11:49:47
[13 years, 73 days ago]

Some solid updates you have there, keep it up!


 
Roman [31]
2011-09-16 23:09:39
[13 years, 73 days ago]

In order to keep this thread on top of the thread list, Update!

Now, The site pulls the level hof every hour! It uses botname right now, which I will change to username tomorrow, it takes a little more because I have to check for the clan name.

Anyways!
http://botsunauthorized.net/?p=user

Find your name!
-Alan


 
Draoi [137]
2011-09-17 12:02:06
[13 years, 72 days ago]

Stop mailing me on my alts promoting your site.

grrr

squinty eyes


 
Mainor II [146]
2011-09-17 12:26:20
[13 years, 72 days ago]

im curious to the build planner. Im guessing it is a combo of the build calculator and saving several levels etc? IMO this would be a real nice addition.

/mark


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-17 14:49:36
[13 years, 72 days ago]

Most likely saving them only.

You could make the bot then have a "Save" button.


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-17 23:13:37
[13 years, 72 days ago]

Clan rankings can now be ordering ascending and descending in all columns.
Level Rankings will get updated tomorrow.



Curious, I know Wins are a thing to have rankings for. Should I do that and Energy Total next? I find energy month kinda a waste since it resets every month. Unless people want it, it would still be easy to get.


 
neps [193]
<123>
2011-09-17 23:52:18
[13 years, 72 days ago]

It wouldn't be complete without it, in my opinion.


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-18 10:44:28
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Yeah, kind of need to get them all.


 
neps [194]
<123>
2011-09-18 10:45:28
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Pokemans!


 
Mainor II [146]
2011-09-18 10:46:06
[13 years, 71 days ago]

you could perhaps save the top100 at the end of every month or so, or just for everyone. Im not an expert on datastorage though, so i have no clue whether that is realistic :P


 
neps [194]
<123>
2011-09-18 10:48:00
[13 years, 71 days ago]

I'm no expert either, but I'm pretty sure that should be easy enough.


 
Mainor II [146]
2011-09-18 10:54:48
[13 years, 71 days ago]

easy enough: yes, but im sure Alan doesnt want to download 10GB of data every month or so :P


 
neps [194]
<123>
2011-09-18 11:04:20
[13 years, 71 days ago]

118.9 MB = Currently displayed database size in Documentation


 
Emanuel [101]
2011-09-18 13:33:32
[13 years, 71 days ago]
118.9 MB = Currently displayed database size in Documentation

That includes forum posts, bmails, fight logs etc.

A top 100 energy list is probably no bigger than 10kB.


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-18 20:22:24
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Hof levels = 100 * 24 * 365 = 876,000 rows
Hof Wins = 100 * 24 * 365 = 876,000 rows
Hof Energy = 100 * 24 * 365 = 876,000 rows
HoF Monthly = 100 * 24 * 365 = 876,000 rows
Clans = ~180 * 24 * 365 = 1,576,800 rows

That is 5,080,800 rows per year. Which are all in different tables, but created at the same time from one file. No big deal since they are all pulled at different times.

I'll add the wins and energy tonight. I am also working on the build simulator. It's working pretty well so far.

-Alan


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-18 22:44:18
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Keep it up man, this is coming along really nicely!


 
Zalfor [52]
2011-09-18 23:23:08
[13 years, 71 days ago]

All I got to say Alan is...

U B CODIN' LIKE A BOSS!

Keep up the good work :-)


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-18 23:34:25
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Update!

  • Wins are now stored just like levels and clans.
  • A simulator is now on the game. I'd like to thank AquaRegia for the code to run the simulator. It is in effect the same as Ender's, but it does not require a GM script or the slow loading of the php base calculator.
    Make two builds using my calculator located Here and input those url's into The Simulator!.

-Alan

P.S. It takes me two hours to watch and see if the data is actually working for the archives. The first hour, it gets the initial amount and adding the user to the database. The next hour, it pulls the next info and compares it to the last. With out the second hour, the first hour will not show up. That is the reason why the "rankings" take a day or so for me to add them.


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-19 00:44:45
[13 years, 71 days ago]

Just keeps on rolling along.


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-19 12:12:08
[13 years, 70 days ago]

Show some love and make an account at my forum please.

http://botsunauthorized.net/forum/

Thanks!
-Alan


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-19 14:22:08
[13 years, 70 days ago]

I don't want to!


 
neps [195]
<123>
2011-09-19 14:28:19
[13 years, 70 days ago]

I don't like simulators.


 
Draoi [137]
2011-09-19 15:07:49
[13 years, 70 days ago]

I don't like fat people.


 
Mainor X [30]
2011-09-19 15:11:47
[13 years, 70 days ago]

i don't like people who make useless comments


 
Made2shred [114]
2011-09-20 03:33:05
[13 years, 70 days ago]

i like cupcakes


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-09-20 09:17:20
[13 years, 69 days ago]

I don't like people who don't like people who make useless comments.


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-20 21:53:46
[13 years, 69 days ago]

Update!

Site now pulls energy total and monthly energy.
Also, all archives are under one main page now to save menu space.


Hey, nos how's the images on the Archive page?

-Alan


 
DarkNinjaMaster [84]
2011-09-20 21:59:01
[13 years, 69 days ago]

Needs to be more totally way obvious they are links to something, if I was some random user I might click on the archive, think "hey that's some nice pictures of some words he's got archived" and then leave.


 
Roman [32]
2011-09-20 22:04:51
[13 years, 69 days ago]

Edit : "Click a link below to go to that archive"


 
Fatass [30]
2011-09-28 16:20:48
[13 years, 61 days ago]

Bump.


 
Fatass [35]
2011-10-02 15:41:17
[13 years, 57 days ago]

So...With the new remaking of the clan rankings and shit, my site hasn't been updating since then...Sorry guys.


 
Nosferatu [1]
2011-10-02 17:26:10
[13 years, 57 days ago]

It's time for an overhaul! :P


 
Alan [43]
2012-01-08 20:49:06
[12 years, 324 days ago]

Bump.

I've spent this entire weekend go through all of the archives and making them work with the new clan/hof tables. Please stop by and check it out!

http://botsunauthorized.net/

p.s. Ender please don't change the tables anytime soon :P


 
iAlan [140]
2012-01-09 08:33:50
[12 years, 323 days ago]

Woah! Thanks alan for updating this! It's awesome.

-Alan
...Wait what?


 
Draoi [101]
2012-01-09 11:44:23
[12 years, 323 days ago]

lol


 
Mithrandon [144]
2012-01-09 15:59:58
[12 years, 323 days ago]

maybe Ender could make some views for alan, so when he change the tables next time it won't affect the site?


 
iAlan [140]
2012-01-09 17:05:42
[12 years, 323 days ago]

It wasn't to bad I guess.

Few problems :

  • No losses to look for, so that takes out one spot on the table on my end
  • Energy gain, is not replaced with energy ratio. No point in looking for it
  • Ratio is the only thing that is shown on clan ranks, no wins or losses

I had to go through 10 files, taking out losses, energy gain, and wins for clans. Making sure each file pulled the right information. Example: The forth column could of been wins, now it is monthy energy. So it didn't store energy as wins, etc.

It was fun though :D


 
Alan [55]
2012-01-19 12:46:18
[12 years, 313 days ago]

Update.

On the clan lists, I've added a new column.

"Behind First", it takes the highest clans and minuses what your clan is.
Handy I think :D


 
Made2shred [138]
2012-01-20 22:13:15
[12 years, 312 days ago]

Not trying to be a dick or anything but the design makes my brain cry


 
Alan [19]
2012-05-30 08:46:14
[12 years, 181 days ago]

If anyone cares, while adding a new cron job to my game, I noticed the cron job that runs every hour to pull all the details from bots4 is still running.

The load times are a tad ridiculous, upwards of 10-15 seconds, but if there is a need for it to be faster, I could work on it some.

It has stored records (if the bot/clan was made) since January 8th. :)


 
Made2shred [103]
2012-05-31 02:52:44
[12 years, 181 days ago]

wow 10-15 seconds?


 
Alan [19]
2012-05-31 22:45:14
[12 years, 180 days ago]

Ya...When it loops through, it compares with the record before.

So each record is pulled with a query. in the loop.

Very bad coding style :P


 
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