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neps [331]
<123>
2012-03-18 11:48:16
[12 years, 254 days ago]

I computed that I had enough low levels to get 10M by month end. Literally minutes after I start, Ender removes xE.

Must say though, this new system looks much better, much more stable. Let me be the first to say, thanks for the update Ender.

Also, awesome on the level based EPH. I have 753 EPH, and LOL, Myriad has 1226. That's more than 800k energy per month, just idling. :D


 
shadow_rith [140]
2012-03-18 11:50:24
[12 years, 254 days ago]

+1


 
Zal [112]
2012-03-18 11:51:18
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Thanks for the update Ender :) It gives me hope =D

And lol @ Myriad


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-03-18 11:53:38
[12 years, 254 days ago]

800k idle energy may be a bit OP, might look into retweaking the level aspect. :)


 
neps [331]
<123>
2012-03-18 11:56:21
[12 years, 254 days ago]

You should have let me dump my 10M first. I built eight hundred level 20s. Hehe.


 
Esvrainzas [123]
2012-03-18 12:08:24
[12 years, 254 days ago]

I'm curious about the PvE thing...


 
d3s0 [51]
2012-03-18 12:12:59
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Ofc this makes energy system way better, but such changes shouldn't be done in the middle of the month I think :)


 
Alan [80]
2012-03-18 12:32:05
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Make a cap on the EPH?

Or a log formula? After let's say 500 EPH, it starts to slow down ?


 
Chapo [65]
2012-03-18 12:47:31
[12 years, 254 days ago]

\o/


 
Hotcocoa [33]
2012-03-18 13:04:03
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Wow.. Neps wow


 
neps [331]
<123>
2012-03-18 13:11:52
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Took me 36 hours at the least. :/


 
Angelo [112]
2012-03-18 13:17:58
[12 years, 254 days ago]

Sorry for ever doubting you ender, I should know better by now. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.


 
dragonrose [46]
Head Moderator
2012-03-18 15:36:40
[12 years, 254 days ago]

I built eight hundred level 20s. Hehe.

Holy fuck. Neps you need help ^^

Thanks for addressing the issues wiggin :)


 
Number Two [65]
2012-03-19 02:13:24
[12 years, 253 days ago]

I am not sure that this is the best way to fix the system...

I liked the fact that you could fight good bots from opposite clans, and get award for that. I believe that fixing the EPH as ender just did, and putting a cap on xE of 3.0 would have been a better solution.

Maximum energy heist one could make then would be 60 energy per fight (without buffs) and that isnt so much than regular 20, considering you have to fight a really good bot and not a dumper whore for that energy.

opinions?


 
Mainor [84]
2012-03-19 16:12:33
[12 years, 253 days ago]

agreed. People might like PvE but it should be possible (and worthwile) to take others down.


 
Draoi [51]
2012-03-19 16:13:29
[12 years, 253 days ago]
800k idle energy may be a bit OP, might look into retweaking the level aspect. :)

Right now myriad will get ~480k energy by the end of the month, prolley a top10 spot for straight chillin'.

lol


 
Draoi [51]
2012-03-19 16:14:00
[12 years, 253 days ago]

Mainor! When you gonna score again :(


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-03-19 22:37:53
[12 years, 253 days ago]

There's going to be two camps on this issue and it's not really possible for them to both be pleased. I may look into bringing back some limited PvP aspects in the future, but for now things will remain mostly as they are. A lot of players (not all, I know) really didn't like being able to lose their energy.


 
Made2shred [70]
2012-03-19 23:13:29
[12 years, 253 days ago]

new updates! <3

I like them, just cap the max energy per hour.


 
Myriad [294]
2012-03-20 00:16:48
[12 years, 253 days ago]

The one thing I still don't like with the current system is the way bots with 0 energy have 0 EPH. It limits targets quite significantly, especially if bots get drained in the first few days of the month. Without being able to take large chunks of energy quickly, scoring could become stale quite quickly.


 
Number Two [65]
2012-03-20 01:38:37
[12 years, 253 days ago]

fight people that have energy?


 
BFal [166]
2012-03-20 01:43:42
[12 years, 252 days ago]

Tell that to the other bots that have given up?


 
Made2shred [70]
2012-03-20 03:20:56
[12 years, 252 days ago]

myriad has a really good point, just because you don't have any energy shouldn't mean you have 0 EPH, same goes for if you have more you get more. but I still think that an energy ratio should be taken into account, just not so much that bots will end up with 1000EPH


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-03-20 10:33:08
[12 years, 252 days ago]

EPH will likely be adjusted a bit more. It's probably too high for some bots. I also wouldn't be against making the minimum EPH 1 instead of 0, so if you lose your energy and go inactive, you have at least some potential of gradual regen.


 
Mithrandon [147]
2012-03-20 10:45:43
[12 years, 252 days ago]

+1


 
Apex Insane [60]
2012-03-20 11:19:57
[12 years, 252 days ago]

+1


 
Myriad [294]
2012-03-20 19:05:17
[12 years, 252 days ago]

I think everyone would agree that there have been too many changes this month and that if there is a change to the EPH it should occur next month ;)


 
Draoi [51]
2012-03-20 19:24:04
[12 years, 252 days ago]

Looks like someone is hoping to get a top10 monthly energy trophy. :P


 
Number Two [65]
2012-03-20 19:59:43
[12 years, 252 days ago]

2500+ eph?

cmon...something has got to be wrong with the formula.

so, take xE and thus option of taking bigger energy hauls away from lower level bots and gift high level high wins bots sick high eph.

the fuck...


 
Ender [1]
Administrator
2012-03-23 21:12:21
[12 years, 249 days ago]

There was indeed a bug - http://bots4.net/forum/3/3763


 
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