What do you reckon guys? Im researching it for college and want opinions.
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2013-07-17 07:44:08
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
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<Apex>
2013-07-17 07:56:24
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
No. |
2013-07-17 07:57:22
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
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2013-07-17 07:59:32
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
Do you not have any reason behind your answer? For every answer there is a reason. |
2013-07-17 09:01:14
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
I would go by no. Violence is inflicted to us daily (games, movies, news, ect) and we aren't all killing each other (at least literally). I won't say that violent games don't have an effect but I think it's effect isn't sufficient to turn a person aggressive. It depends on the person, not the games he/she plays. |
2013-07-17 09:05:39
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
Just click here, it's been covered to death by literally thousands of reports and articles. TL;DR: No. |
2013-07-17 09:06:51
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
Why limit it specifically to the nature of video games? That doesn't sound like a neutral thesis. It's in the same line of "metal music promotes satan worshipping" and "violent movies make people violent" etc. Answers can never be that simplistic.. People 'like' violence. As in, it fascinates us. Kids like to play violent games. Every one of us has had toy guns and played cops vs robbers, etc. And people have always told / read horror stories etc. But watching violence is even more exciting. The whole town came to look when some guy's head was going to be chopped off. That said, that doesn't mean violence is just an inherent part of us. There is research out there linking violence to nutrients. Too much or too little of something can cause significant changes in behaviour. Interesting study with prisoners receiving supplements; http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/181/1/22.full "The results showed that those receiving the extra nutrients committed 37% fewer serious offences involving violence, and 26% fewer offences overall" |
2013-07-17 09:19:18
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
no reason = violence came first if anything video games help calm violent ppl by taking out their aggression on virtual enemies :D |
<Apex>
2013-07-17 10:16:10
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
People don't carry over any severe habits like that from video games. If anything, the reason they play violent video games is because they're already like that. We rape bots on this game, are we all gonna start raping everyone irl? |
2013-07-17 10:24:11
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
I'd say No and Maybe. It depends on your background, your parents, lifestyle, etc. One reason why I never played GTA. Wasn't me, my family, etc. You guys can go all "Mine either", but it's the truth. Never shot anything more than a .22 rifle. Ya, I know. If you were raised in a shitty neighborhood, then it may play a little bit on you. Not just "Oh look, lets fuck shit up", then it plays out in real life. Doubtful. |
2013-07-17 10:46:19
[11 years, 133 days ago] |
I think violent video games are more of a release for our violent intentions like anger etc. so that we don't actually commit any. And it is one-sided the argument really. Do violent video games have more of an effect on us than violent movies or books? Because video games do a better job at immersing the player into the imaginary world it could be true. But I tend to remember books more than video games because video games tend to follow too linear of story paths and get repetitive. If you look at real cases of murders you will find that more people have probably committed murder in the name of Jack the Ripper or any number of famous people in that line of work than any video game. In fact, you want to know a couple of really stupid murder incidents? They revolve around The Matrix. In September 2002, Vadim Mieseges murdered his landlord in California and claimed he'd been in the Matrix during the act. That same fall, Lee Boyd, who had been arrested for 10 deadly sniper shootings near Washington, D.C., gave homage to "The Matrix" in sketches he made while in jail. In February 2003, Virginian Joshua Cooke said he lived in the Matrix when he murdered his parents. In July 2002, Tonda Lynn Ansley shot and killed her landlord. The Ohio resident then told police her landlord had been involved in a conspiracy to brainwash and murder her, just as Neo is persecuted in "The Matrix". From: http://people.howstuffworks.com/5-copycat-killers.htm#page=6 All in all I think that if a person fixates on something enough they will do something related to their fixation sooner or later. |
2013-07-17 14:12:03
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Thankyou everyone for your opinions :) I personally like Rockman's response. I will use some in my work whilst debating this next week. But please keep the opinions coming :) |
Head Moderator 2013-07-17 14:25:17
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Throughout my life the press has blamed various things for turning people violent including Tom & Jerry cartoons, heavy metal music, horror movies, video games, the internet, live news reels showing graphic sights, rape porn & the list goes on. None of these things make people violent. We are by nature carnivores. Meat = murder. But, the majority of people can distinguish & relate to a fellow human being and do not see them as potential prey, as opposed to a cow. I believe some people are born with the potential for violence, however how they are nurtured plays a huge part in whether the violence is unleashed. |
2013-07-17 14:29:37
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Sorry I just wanted to mention that we are omnivores. This may be helpful for your argument. And it's adorable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbMDgWm8bDg |
2013-07-17 14:50:01
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
I like ActiveX's argument against the fact they turn people violent. Im going to touch both sides alot through the debate so will use this one too :) |
<Apex>
2013-07-17 19:40:05
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Apathy towards violence seems to lead to more prevalent violence than games because the behavior is not kept in check, just let to develop itself into idiots. |
<Apex>
2013-07-17 19:40:49
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Sorry for double post, already wrote this paper for college. |
<Apex>
2013-07-17 19:41:05
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Poor Rithy |
2013-07-18 00:25:57
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
My personal experience leads me to absolutely believe the answer is no. My brother and I were introduced to violent video games during our formative years, 11 and 14. The games we played revolved mainly around shooting people or wrestling, actions we lived out in our playtime with our friends anyway. If anything this lead us to commit less violence to each other, I bullied him a lot, not proud of it. Video games gave us something we could do together and helped us bond, helped me understand his logic and reasoning. The bullying stopped within 6 months of us getting a console and we became very good friends. All while we shot russians in the face or piledrived each other and our friends, OFF THE TOP ROPE! I'd also like to add that I believe the advent of better graphics and gaming engines has shown me many things I would not have known otherwise, driving simulators have shown me things that make me a more careful driver, as I know full well that I cannot control a car at very high speeds. And television has shown me that being a serial killer is not fun, and don't play with guns because accidentally shooting your friends can be horribly tragic. This is of course my disposition. I agree with Rose, I have a close friend that idolizes Dexter, loves NBK and all kinds of torture movies, I know he is more capable of violence than me. I can't stand those types of television. |
2013-07-18 11:36:45
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
See DNM, it's how you were raised. You said it a few times, "I knew that wasn't fun", "Driving at high speeds is bad", etc. It shows that you were raised with good parents. I think that plays a huge role in things. I don't think video games turn people violent. It shows them ways to do things. If they are violent, it will aid them. "Fuck this game, let's go steal something real!". |
<Storage>
2013-07-18 11:44:05
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
I don't think the raising of a child is everything, although it might be a particular part of. Sometimes some people are just bad, regardless of who raises them. We call them sociopaths. |
2013-07-18 11:51:10
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
^ Well ya, if you take that path. Hahahah. |
2013-07-18 12:36:53
[11 years, 132 days ago] |
Guess who this is? |
Morningstar17 [1] 2013-07-18 14:48:55
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
Kim Jong-il? I dunno. |
2013-07-18 16:52:51
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
I´m going to take a wild guess. Hitler? |
2013-07-19 01:27:39
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
win! \o/ |
2013-07-19 08:00:57
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
Googled hitler baby. I found this one more convincent. |
2013-07-19 08:03:30
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
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2013-07-19 08:03:42
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
It´s funny :) But sadly it´s fake :( |
2013-07-19 08:09:57
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
I meant the Hitler baby... Still I enjoyed reading up on Good ol Vlad again. |
2013-07-19 08:16:22
[11 years, 131 days ago] |
There was alot of persons I didn't knew. I felt sick by reading what they did. |
2013-07-20 10:36:03
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
Pwn'd :D |
2013-07-20 10:37:22
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
That list of evil people reads more like a list of what human beings, in their utter stupidity, will allow others to do to them. |
Head Moderator 2013-07-20 10:40:33
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
you consider the weak, poor & hungry the ones who are at fault? odd view you have there DNM |
2013-07-20 10:41:41
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
So, what 6 million of jews could have done better? what can you do when who governs your country decides to kill you? |
Head Moderator 2013-07-20 10:45:00
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
How would yoy react when threatened with a gun? Would you comply & hope everything will be ok or resist & risk certain death? If you want to lay blame, don't look to the victims. Look to the weak willed, complicit enforcers who follow the will of a madman/woman. |
2013-07-20 10:46:26
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
I've just always found it, odd, that in history a few people have been able to kill so many. |
2013-07-20 11:09:10
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
You just have to convince the others that killing is the right thing to do. |
2013-07-20 12:38:27
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
Talking, telling people what they want to hear. Make your cause bigger than theirs. "Our" Goals are bigger than apart. My path is better. My goals are bigger than you. etc. How cults, terrorists and violent governments work down to the very beginning. Then, it's a matter of applying your goal that you've told them that is better than theirs. If you can get one person, you can get another. |
2013-07-20 12:48:16
[11 years, 130 days ago] |
Yes Alan, that's what I said. |