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Is it allowed?

Theres restrictions in place. Guess within those restriction its okay

I've noticed the biggest difference here and bots2 will be the base req for all of the armors, not just the body.

Actually, whoring is still pretty easy... :)

It is i just said that theres restrictions if Ender want to stop it completely hed set harsher ones :p

I guess unique item restriction will come soon..

I don't understand why he insists on adding restrictions. Whores have been a part of Bots for a long time. Its not a big deal really and it gives people something to do when they tire of fighting for energy. Which I tired of a few days after the game went live. :(

hater flame spam and all that

Whores suck, real war is where its at, I get a shitload more satisfaction out of taking 1000 energy off Rapture or Eternal than I ever got off making 15k cs.

ofc if you want to whore its not hard, you just have to learn to share.

That sounds nice, but what are you going to do when you get sick of doing that?

Get sick of real war, having to have an awesome build to win and raping the crap out of real peoples hopes and dreams? I won't.

And what are you going to do when you're bored after you've destroyed the game again by allowing massive whoring, again, and turned bots into a stupid ass clicking race, again?

Hopes and dreams for what? Getting energy that evaporates in 15 minutes if you happen for forget to take your training / int equipment off before you log out? Weeks worth of effort lost in a day? At least when you raped all the whores you could see that you accomplished something and actually helped your clan and as long as you stayed in the clan you could see your effort listed on the clans profile page.

I should be offended by your claim that my bot is nothing more then a whore because it stinks and is destroying the game, but I'm not. It's a leveling bot that happens to enjoy being in a clan with some friends. So I'll have to live with the shit ratio, who cares, rape away.

Don't take this the wrong way but your attitude of raping peoples bots and destroying their hopes and dreams is what will keep new people from coming back to this game.

It isn't the over flowing amounts of whores that inhabit the game that will destroy it. At least if you built a shit bot in the past you could cast it away and leave with the feeling that somebody else is raping it and gaining some cs off it while you try again with a new build.

Real wars will kill off the game faster then whores ever did. Bots 2 ran for something like 7 or 8 years didn't it and would still be going if flor wasn't a lazy bastard. Thats what I say, take it or leave it.

Real wars will kill off the game faster then whores ever did. Bots 2 ran for something like 7 or 8 years didn't it and would still be going if flor wasn't a lazy bastard.

The best words on energy/cs system debate since it was changed.
And I think he is right :)

I also agree on how fast real wars will destroy the game, but only for one reason: Real wars detract use of non-conventional weapons/armors. Go ahead and look at any bot with energy between level 80 and 90 and you will find that many, if not all (I found one of my bots to be one of the only fighters without them) have answerers. That is because answerers are a "perfect" build at that stage. Every other bot has other weaponry and is thus raped for energy since we all know that these answerer bots just cannot be beaten. So what then is the purpose of making another bot in that range that does not have answerers? This is the question that I ponder.

And on top of that the whoring ways of bots2 are still around whether or not you want to see them. People will always attack the weak. They only fight other bots the same type as themselves when they have to or they want to piss someone off :P

Couldn't have said it better myself Zal. I thought real wars was supposed to do away with everybody having the same generic bot... Pretty boring stuff there.

I wonder what would happen if every single bot in the game was the exact same? It would be real wars that's what. lol

Solution: floating point armor. This also allows for continuous additions of armor.

A floating point absorb formula wouldn't really do much other than progressively reduce the impact of armour defense. Basically everyone in the game would receive a nerf when new armours are put in, so everyone would have to buy better armours just to get back to the same amount of absorb they had before the nerf. So from that perspective I don't see how it could a very attractive option.

In my opinion the best way of injecting more interest into the energy system and game in general is through new features. Things that will increase the complexity of the battle scene, whether it be elements of luck/skill, whatever. Enchantments, buffs, 'special' equipment, anything that will make the process of determining the 'perfect' bot more difficult. I mean, all you have to do is plug two different builds into Emanuel's bloody calc and you'll find out the win% of one bot over the other. Something to change things up could really make things so much more interesting.

The topic is 'whoring', where is Snooki?

If both you and your opponent are losing absorb, con becomes more important, and it further stretches how far weapons can be. Taking a floating point into account, answerers might not be a viable weapon until say the 100s. Also changes the balance of shields in the game.