suggestions

If you have a shield and you go second, your opponent has TWO shots at you before you even get a swing in. I guess it doesn't make a big difference, but I think it would be fairer if your opponent only got 1 attempt before you did.

Either this or allow shields to be equipped in the right hand. iirc in bots2, when you were the challenger and had the shield in your right hand, your opponent had two shots at you if you went second, but if it was in your left they only had one shot at you. This was reversed if you were the defender, so there were pros and cons of having the shield in either hand. Currently, your opponent has two free shots at you no matter what.

Could this be the reason that my shield bots feels different when training on the higher lvl trainbots compared to the old game?

Now i very often end up dead before i even get strike in, didnt have that problem in old game :)

Maybe, i am just imagening things, the bot i used to play in old game was above lvl 220, if that would make any difference.

/Smeagol

Another thing i noticed is that my targets very often miss me, i dont remember seeing my targets miss that much in old game, i recall there were more blocks and lesser misses against me.

Now i have a feeling that the miss chance is affecting the block chance in a way, instead of block it will be a miss (think you made a thread with block chance lower than its supposed to be). Yet again i might be imagening things, been awhile since bots2 :)

/Smeagol

Yeah, it does make fighting high level trainbots more difficult, especially since they always get the first hit due to their int. As a dex/balance bot, being able to effectively train on the high level trainbots depends on how quickly they can kill you and how many shots you can get in in that time. One hit can easily be >30% of your HP.

This explains so much.... I had noticed something was wrong but I hadn't been able to figure out what

I must've never attacked you Smeagol, I miss bots with shields more than they block :\

Perhaps that is an attempt to limit how high a bot can level up to? Just like energy seems to limit whoring bots. Seems to take away a lot of what made Bots fun.

I remember talking about this on IRC ages ago, before it went into Closed Beta I think, just when he was asking about small game mechanics that he didn't remember etc and stuff like that

Just one more way the man's keepin' us down